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Jebus. Ok, I need to look into disk encryption (and maybe TrueCrypt) for my phone. AFAIK, there is nothing incriminating on it, but the cops can always find s

by dstorrs 14y ago

Jebus. Ok, I need to look into disk encryption (and maybe TrueCrypt) for my phone. AFAIK, there is nothing incriminating on it, but the cops can always find something if they really want to.

ErrantX 14y ago
> but the cops can always find something if they really want to. Forensic analyst here :) Genuinely the vast majority of cops don't. And indeed IMO sending this sort of thing off to contractors is the necessary sort of separation to make sure that dirty cops can't incriminate you. So on one hand I defend my profession; which I have always found to be supremely ethical and approach cases from the perspective of innocence. And on the other hand I entirely agree; this move removes an important separation of evidence retrieval that means it could well be abused.
- smashing 14y ago
  What would happen if the police retain the data, presumably on a hard drive, then don't follow properly dispose of the equipment after a hardware upgrade? It would be possible for criminals to acquire the information somehow, right?
  - excuse-me 14y ago
    It's easier than that, a copy of a celebs phone records was about £10-25 so a dump of their smart phone should be yours for a pony
jahmed 14y ago
Everyone has done/is doing/will do something illegal. The question is if we or someone in charge cares. As told to me by some friendly police officers I would chat with.
- shill 14y ago
  Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. --Lavrentiy Beria
- excuse-me 14y ago
  It doesn't even need to be illegal - just something Murdoch's papers are interested in. Remember who 'owns' the met!
- bigiain 14y ago
  You've seen the "Dont talk to police" video, right? "An law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
ConstantineXVI 14y ago
Android 3.0+ has it as an option; I believe iOS does it automatically if you set a pass code. Can't speak to the actual security of either though. PS: this does nothing against phone numbers and text messages stored on your SIM (the vast majority of smartphones no longer do this, AFAIK)

by dstorrs 14y ago

Jebus. Ok, I need to look into disk encryption (and maybe TrueCrypt) for my phone. AFAIK, there is nothing incriminating on it, but the cops can always find something if they really want to.

ErrantX 14y ago

> but the cops can always find something if they really want to. Forensic analyst here :) Genuinely the vast majority of cops don't. And indeed IMO sending this sort of thing off to contractors is the necessary sort of separation to make sure that dirty cops can't incriminate you. So on one hand I defend my profession; which I have always found to be supremely ethical and approach cases from the perspective of innocence. And on the other hand I entirely agree; this move removes an important separation of evidence retrieval that means it could well be abused.

smashing 14y ago
What would happen if the police retain the data, presumably on a hard drive, then don't follow properly dispose of the equipment after a hardware upgrade? It would be possible for criminals to acquire the information somehow, right?
- excuse-me 14y ago
  It's easier than that, a copy of a celebs phone records was about £10-25 so a dump of their smart phone should be yours for a pony

jahmed 14y ago

Everyone has done/is doing/will do something illegal. The question is if we or someone in charge cares. As told to me by some friendly police officers I would chat with.

shill 14y ago
Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. --Lavrentiy Beria
excuse-me 14y ago
It doesn't even need to be illegal - just something Murdoch's papers are interested in. Remember who 'owns' the met!
bigiain 14y ago
You've seen the "Dont talk to police" video, right? "An law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

ConstantineXVI 14y ago

Android 3.0+ has it as an option; I believe iOS does it automatically if you set a pass code. Can't speak to the actual security of either though. PS: this does nothing against phone numbers and text messages stored on your SIM (the vast majority of smartphones no longer do this, AFAIK)