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I have to wonder why mobile phones aren't better protected against this kind of attack. It doesn't seem like the default should be to allow an unauthenticated d

by Zak 14y ago

I have to wonder why mobile phones aren't better protected against this kind of attack. It doesn't seem like the default should be to allow an unauthenticated device to plug in and read/image the phone.

dsl 14y ago
Because consumers don't demand it. They want Facebook and pretty colors and high megapixel cameras. The people who do ask for it are obviously criminals.
- dstorrs 14y ago
  > The people who do ask for it are obviously criminals. You're being sarcastic, but we're moving in the direction of "police need unlimited power to investigate, so let's make it illegal to ask for privacy". And yes, we're a long way off from that scenario (at least in the USA) but I can see it on the horizon. The thing that really scares me is the UK system -- CCTV cameras on every corner explicitly built for surveillance. We have a lot of cameras in the US (traffic, ATM, etc) but they generally belong to different entities and there is no comprehensive framework for getting (near)real-time footage from all of them.
  - excuse-me 14y ago
    I remember the UK when we only had the old fashioned - bombs on the streets of London - type terrorists. Then we were supposed to not give into the terrorists, but with these new hidden internet terrorists it's vital that we hand over our lives to the police.
  - skymt 14y ago
    The police chief of my city (Newport News VA, USA) recently declared his intention to set up surveillance cameras "from one end of this city to the other" because "I can't put a police officer on every corner" but "I might be able to put up a camera." http://www.dailypress.com/news/crime/dp-nws-police-cameras-20120519,0,1215351.story http://www.dailypress.com/news/crime/dp-nws-police-cameras-2...
  - hnwh 14y ago
    I don't think we're as far off from that as you think, in the US..
- r00fus 14y ago
  Customers demand the phone is backdoor-capable - and the customers are the telcos, not the end-users.
ErrantX 14y ago
Well in reality they are. Phones are fucking hard to break into. PIN codes are pretty much critical for this sort of analysis :)
- deleted 14y ago
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there 14y ago
Most people would rather not have all of their data gone forever if they forget their password, so they give up absolute security for some convenience. Just like how most people want a secure lock on their front door and their car, but they still want to be able to call a locksmith who can pick the lock in a few seconds if they lose their keys.

by Zak 14y ago

dsl 14y ago

Because consumers don't demand it. They want Facebook and pretty colors and high megapixel cameras. The people who do ask for it are obviously criminals.

dstorrs 14y ago
> The people who do ask for it are obviously criminals. You're being sarcastic, but we're moving in the direction of "police need unlimited power to investigate, so let's make it illegal to ask for privacy". And yes, we're a long way off from that scenario (at least in the USA) but I can see it on the horizon. The thing that really scares me is the UK system -- CCTV cameras on every corner explicitly built for surveillance. We have a lot of cameras in the US (traffic, ATM, etc) but they generally belong to different entities and there is no comprehensive framework for getting (near)real-time footage from all of them.
- excuse-me 14y ago
  I remember the UK when we only had the old fashioned - bombs on the streets of London - type terrorists. Then we were supposed to not give into the terrorists, but with these new hidden internet terrorists it's vital that we hand over our lives to the police.
- skymt 14y ago
  The police chief of my city (Newport News VA, USA) recently declared his intention to set up surveillance cameras "from one end of this city to the other" because "I can't put a police officer on every corner" but "I might be able to put up a camera." http://www.dailypress.com/news/crime/dp-nws-police-cameras-20120519,0,1215351.story http://www.dailypress.com/news/crime/dp-nws-police-cameras-2...
- hnwh 14y ago
  I don't think we're as far off from that as you think, in the US..
r00fus 14y ago
Customers demand the phone is backdoor-capable - and the customers are the telcos, not the end-users.

ErrantX 14y ago

Well in reality they are. Phones are fucking hard to break into. PIN codes are pretty much critical for this sort of analysis :)

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there 14y ago

Most people would rather not have all of their data gone forever if they forget their password, so they give up absolute security for some convenience. Just like how most people want a secure lock on their front door and their car, but they still want to be able to call a locksmith who can pick the lock in a few seconds if they lose their keys.