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1967, then Canadian PM Pierre Trudeau on the government and consenting adults in their bedrooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoqgGgmVmI https://www.youtube
by neom 3y ago
1967, then Canadian PM Pierre Trudeau on the government and consenting adults in their bedrooms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoqgGgmVmI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OoqgGgmVmI
I think the issue here is the between consenting adults part, deepfakes in this instance are probably not between consenting adults. I also think it's important to think about the reality of how this likely plays out. If someone deepfakes me and faps and I never find out and they never tell anyone, it would be quite hard for there to be action. So if someone is deepfaking you and you know about it, there must be a logical path there, and none of them look good for the deepfaker. Can't say I know where I land on the issue, and I've thought about it for days and hours.
- floor2 3y agoExcept the actual human being who resembles the deepfake image isn't actually involved at all. People are acting like a "deepfake of a person" is something different than a drawing, painting, song, poem or any other artistic creation inspired by, based on, or with elements drawn from a real person. "If someone is deepfaking you" is such a weird imaginary problem. Someone might be imagining you. Someone might see you in a coffee shop while writing a screenplay and use the outfit you're wearing to describe a character in their story. Who cares? If someone is committing fraud by trying to pass off a deepfake as a real photo, then we already have laws around fraud, defamation, harassment to cover that. If someone makes a deepfake that looks similar to a real person for their own amusement, that's no different than writing fan-fiction or sketching in a notebook.
- 23B1 3y agoYou should think long and hard about the second- and third-order effects.
- catlover76 3y ago[dead]
- chrisjj 3y agoNo such thing. Distribution of an image is not an effect of its creation.
- 23B1 3y agoThen you've clearly failed to think about those downstream effects. It's okay, a lot of people – not just in tech – find this challenging.
- edanm 3y agoI think it would be better if you gave your views on what the downstream effects are, instead of just saying that other people can't think of them.
- chrisjj 3y ago> deepfakes in this instance are probably not between consenting adults. Deepfakes in this instance are not /between/ anyone. Only one person even knows of it.
- 23B1 3y agoCreepshots are not /between/ anyone. Only one person even knows about it.