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Here is the article that he was punished for - https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-a

Here is the article that he was punished for - https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

smrtinsert 2y ago
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- InTheArena 2y ago
  Right, half the country is truth social and newsmax, and should be ignored by the government sponsored press.
  - jefurii 2y ago
    Considering that they're basically calling for the the overthrow of the government, maybe that's appropriate?
    - mistermann 2y ago
      Does the question mark indicate some possibility you'd be willing to consider "finding some way" to install a genuine democracy, that governs according to the will of the people and actually walks the talk? If you think the so-called democracy we have now is acceptable, you've got pretty low standards in my opinion.
      - mistermann 2y ago
        That this is downvoted (twice!) is very interesting. Will this one also? Have I once again (for the third time) picked up an ambitious anti-fan? ;)
  - wwweston 2y ago
    > the government sponsored press. I guess "the nominally-funded by public grants in amounts about two orders of magnitude down from total funding" doesn't have the same rhetorical sizzle. And it's not "ignoring" people to realize that those who choose Truth Social or Newsmax maybe just don't want what NPR does, let alone other reasons why it might be a poor idea to chase those listeners.
  - arp242 2y ago
    Half the country is far too much, but there is certainly a section of people who consider anything other than full-on no-qualifier cheering of Donald Trump to be "left wing biased lamestream media". I don't know exactly how many people exactly bought in to Trump's cult of personality, but it's a sizeable number (10 to 20% at least). So how do you keep everyone happy in a case like that? Well, you can't.
- goatlover 2y ago
  And what about the rest of us centrists/moderates/independents? We just get stuck between two extremes?
  - giraffe_lady 2y ago
    You just experience the social consequences of being on the right, which is what "centrist" has always been a euphemism for.
    - mp05 2y ago
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        lupusreal 2y ago
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        goatlover 2y ago
        If you have to invoke Nazis to make your point, you've already lost the argument.
        anonfordays 2y ago
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    - goatlover 2y ago
      Only if you're on the extreme left. I don't care what your or the extreme right have to say about those of us in the middle. You're both wrong.
- swatcoder 2y ago
  The binary model of political alignment that you're perpetuating isn't accurate and doesn't help. There are 300M+ people in America and their feelings about issues and politicians are all over the place.
TheEggMan 2y ago
You're the man for sharing this
DoreenMichele 2y ago
Not really my thing, but this section suggests he likely has a valid point. Sometimes, being right is the most unforgivable thing you can be. Back in 2011, although NPR’s audience tilted a bit to the left, it still bore a resemblance to America at large. Twenty-six percent of listeners described themselves as conservative, 23 percent as middle of the road, and 37 percent as liberal. By 2023, the picture was completely different: only 11 percent described themselves as very or somewhat conservative, 21 percent as middle of the road, and 67 percent of listeners said they were very or somewhat liberal. We weren’t just losing conservatives; we were also losing moderates and traditional liberals. An open-minded spirit no longer exists within NPR, and now, predictably, we don’t have an audience that reflects America.
- hackerlight 2y ago
  I mean, that data in itself doesn't say much, conservatism in the US changed dramatically in 2015/2016. The people who call themselves conservative now are different to back in 2011. For example the education levels are a lot lower among conservatives and a lot higher among liberals than before.
  - Slava_Propanei 2y ago
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Here is the article that he was punished for - https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...

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InTheArena 2y ago
Right, half the country is truth social and newsmax, and should be ignored by the government sponsored press.
- jefurii 2y ago
  Considering that they're basically calling for the the overthrow of the government, maybe that's appropriate?
  - mistermann 2y ago
    Does the question mark indicate some possibility you'd be willing to consider "finding some way" to install a genuine democracy, that governs according to the will of the people and actually walks the talk? If you think the so-called democracy we have now is acceptable, you've got pretty low standards in my opinion.
    - mistermann 2y ago
      That this is downvoted (twice!) is very interesting. Will this one also? Have I once again (for the third time) picked up an ambitious anti-fan? ;)
- wwweston 2y ago
  > the government sponsored press. I guess "the nominally-funded by public grants in amounts about two orders of magnitude down from total funding" doesn't have the same rhetorical sizzle. And it's not "ignoring" people to realize that those who choose Truth Social or Newsmax maybe just don't want what NPR does, let alone other reasons why it might be a poor idea to chase those listeners.
- arp242 2y ago
  Half the country is far too much, but there is certainly a section of people who consider anything other than full-on no-qualifier cheering of Donald Trump to be "left wing biased lamestream media". I don't know exactly how many people exactly bought in to Trump's cult of personality, but it's a sizeable number (10 to 20% at least). So how do you keep everyone happy in a case like that? Well, you can't.
goatlover 2y ago
And what about the rest of us centrists/moderates/independents? We just get stuck between two extremes?
- giraffe_lady 2y ago
  You just experience the social consequences of being on the right, which is what "centrist" has always been a euphemism for.
  - mp05 2y ago
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      - lupusreal 2y ago
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      - goatlover 2y ago
        If you have to invoke Nazis to make your point, you've already lost the argument.
      - anonfordays 2y ago
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  - goatlover 2y ago
    Only if you're on the extreme left. I don't care what your or the extreme right have to say about those of us in the middle. You're both wrong.
swatcoder 2y ago
The binary model of political alignment that you're perpetuating isn't accurate and doesn't help. There are 300M+ people in America and their feelings about issues and politicians are all over the place.

TheEggMan 2y ago

You're the man for sharing this

DoreenMichele 2y ago

Not really my thing, but this section suggests he likely has a valid point. Sometimes, being right is the most unforgivable thing you can be. Back in 2011, although NPR’s audience tilted a bit to the left, it still bore a resemblance to America at large. Twenty-six percent of listeners described themselves as conservative, 23 percent as middle of the road, and 37 percent as liberal. By 2023, the picture was completely different: only 11 percent described themselves as very or somewhat conservative, 21 percent as middle of the road, and 67 percent of listeners said they were very or somewhat liberal. We weren’t just losing conservatives; we were also losing moderates and traditional liberals. An open-minded spirit no longer exists within NPR, and now, predictably, we don’t have an audience that reflects America.

hackerlight 2y ago
I mean, that data in itself doesn't say much, conservatism in the US changed dramatically in 2015/2016. The people who call themselves conservative now are different to back in 2011. For example the education levels are a lot lower among conservatives and a lot higher among liberals than before.
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago
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