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> IPv6 provides no benefit to end users The benefit to end users is that the whole internet protocol stack finally disappears into the fully transparent realm
by 9dev 2y ago
> IPv6 provides no benefit to end users
The benefit to end users is that the whole internet protocol stack finally disappears into the fully transparent realm it belongs. End users should not have to mess with IP addresses at all; IPv6 makes it possible to have devices that really just work, in the literal sense: They acquire addresses on their own, they negotiate on their own—ideally, you just don't need to care about that part of connectivity at all, ever again.
It brings complexity for network operators, sure—but that's where the complexity belongs!
Edit: I just wish DNS would follow suit, somehow, and everything just got names automatically. That's a whole different problem, however.
- GoblinSlayer 2y agoLike mDNS?
- 9dev 2y agoLike mDNS. But widely available, with a healthy portion of well-known names, quality of life features, and configurability thrown in. I consider this available when I can ping `router.local`, `my-machine.home-network`, `iphone`, or `coffee-maker.devices.floor-5.office` wherever I am, from any of my devices, without any additional configuration required. A liberation of the whole naming business is overdue, in my opinion; domains should be assignable to things securely and automatically, without any involvement of IP addresses or even IT specialists.
- kees99 2y ago> brings complexity for network operators > I just wish DNS would follow suit Technically, this is super-easy. Just select an anycast IP that would always go user's ISP's DNS - just like any other anycast DNS front-end IPs (1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8, et al.) go to a nearest PoP of CF/google/etc. Just to reiterate - there is no reason why an anycast IP has to be held by the same entity globally. "Federated" anycast IP, where each user reaches their local ISP would work just as well. Then make it an internet standard. Once that standard gets implemented in end-devices, there no longer any need to negotiate DNS server IP, same one works across different ISPs, always going to the nearest one. Still complex, but all the complexity is now on ISP side. Practically, this is overwhelmingly unlikely to happen. There is a significant momentum among internet users to actively distrust their ISP, and mechanisms to cloak DNS traffic from user's ISP (DoH, DoT, ...) are somewhat popular, based on that exact motivation, in part.
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- overstay8930 2y agoAnother great benefit is not having to share an IPv4 address, so many issues with IPv4 only servers rate limiting CGNAT addresses, or even worse someone is hosting a Tor relay or exit node and suddenly hundreds of people have to deal with WAF rules all over the internet.