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> But apple has always used dongles Most the Mac laptops I’ve owned have had display port or hdmi, the dongle lifestyle is a new and unpleasant one.

m463 3y ago
The laptops with dedicated ports might have been the last common-sense laptops they made. I laughed (and grumbled) at the article "Benjamin Button Reviews The New MacBook Pro": https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the_new_macbook_pro/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the... (The Benjamin Button movie was about a man who lived life in reverse, starting as old and wrinkled and gradually getting younger)
- rsynnott 3y ago
  The current laptops have a HDMI port. DP over USB-C doesn't require active conversion. I think you're slightly jumping at shadows here. (Apple's _really_ problematic video dongle was the thankfully largely dead lightning to HDMI one, for phones; this was essentially an external USB video card.)
  - epcoa 3y ago
    Active or not, it’s still a dongle (but a dongle or a cable for an external monitor is less of a rage concern and they have added back HDMI as mentioned). However, seriously give me just one fucking USB-A port on a “pro” device. There’s enough people in that segment that use flash sticks and need to interface to all kinds of various hardware (MIDI controllers, pro audio equipment (not every use is a rack)), all kinds of random special purpose hardware, etc. It’s a pro device it should cater to a wider range.
    - m463 3y ago
      wow... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro_(Apple_silicon)#/media/File:Apple_Macbook_Pro_14%22_2021_-_Ports_on_the_left_side.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro_(Apple_silicon)#/m... no usb-a ports sucks, but I guess it's a step in the right direction. sort of amazing how out-of-touch they (still) are with "pro" users. who cares if you need usb-a only once a year. People might only need the bed in their pickup truck once a year, but they buy pickup trucks, get stuff done and are fiercely loyal.

m463 3y ago

The laptops with dedicated ports might have been the last common-sense laptops they made. I laughed (and grumbled) at the article "Benjamin Button Reviews The New MacBook Pro": https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the_new_macbook_pro/ https://blog.pinboard.in/2016/10/benjamin_button_reviews_the... (The Benjamin Button movie was about a man who lived life in reverse, starting as old and wrinkled and gradually getting younger)

rsynnott 3y ago
The current laptops have a HDMI port. DP over USB-C doesn't require active conversion. I think you're slightly jumping at shadows here. (Apple's _really_ problematic video dongle was the thankfully largely dead lightning to HDMI one, for phones; this was essentially an external USB video card.)
- epcoa 3y ago
  Active or not, it’s still a dongle (but a dongle or a cable for an external monitor is less of a rage concern and they have added back HDMI as mentioned). However, seriously give me just one fucking USB-A port on a “pro” device. There’s enough people in that segment that use flash sticks and need to interface to all kinds of various hardware (MIDI controllers, pro audio equipment (not every use is a rack)), all kinds of random special purpose hardware, etc. It’s a pro device it should cater to a wider range.
  - m463 3y ago
    wow... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro_(Apple_silicon)#/media/File:Apple_Macbook_Pro_14%22_2021_-_Ports_on_the_left_side.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Pro_(Apple_silicon)#/m... no usb-a ports sucks, but I guess it's a step in the right direction. sort of amazing how out-of-touch they (still) are with "pro" users. who cares if you need usb-a only once a year. People might only need the bed in their pickup truck once a year, but they buy pickup trucks, get stuff done and are fiercely loyal.