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> An upgrade to windows 11 is a big downgrade. I've heard a similar refrain about every windows release since XP. Not saying it was or is wrong.

Izkata 3y ago
Vista -> 7 generally didn't get such complaints either.
- wongarsu 3y ago
  The same can be said for Windows 8 -> Windows 10. But that's mostly because Vista and 8 were exceptional low points. You can even empirically show that by how abysmally bad their sales were. According to [1], Vista peaked at 25% market share (of Windows installations), when XP still had >70% and Windows 7 was just releasing. Windows 8 (including 8.1) similarly peaked at around 25% right before the release of Windows 10, at a time where Windows 7 held 65% market share, with the rest going to XP. Statista tells a similar story [2] [3] 1: https://windowsreport.com/windows-market-share-history/ https://windowsreport.com/windows-market-share-history/ 2: https://www.statista.com/chart/4225/windows-market-share-by-version/ https://www.statista.com/chart/4225/windows-market-share-by-... 3: https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows-operating-system-market-share/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows...
bsder 3y ago
XP was good for its time. Vista was garbage but necessary. Windows 7 was actively good. Windows 8 was a dumpster fire. Windows 10 would be good if it wasn't riddled with all the dark patterns which make it merely adequate. Windows 11 is going to make the Windows 8 dumpster fire look good by comparison.
- bigstrat2003 3y ago
  Vista was fine too. I ran it for years, never had a single issue. I've seen it said that the problem with Vista was the system requirements were way too low, which I guess makes sense but I can't really confirm or deny. I built a machine well above the minimum specs so I never noticed any issues.
doubled112 3y ago
If you stuck with 98 SE instead of using ME, XP was likely a worse experience on the hardware you had as well. If you had ME, all bets were off. Edit: On the right machine, ME was fine though. Much like Vista after SP2 and really late in it's lifetime.
- AndrewDavis 3y ago
  I used ME for a while. I must say it was extremely performant, shaved off about 15-20 seconds of boot time (compared to 98 SE) off my Athlon XP 2000+ machine. A cold boot in about 25 seconds. Which was a real time saver because it crashed every 2-3 hours.
  - ammo1662 3y ago
    > Which was a real time saver because it crashed every 2-3 hours. That's exactly how I started my career as an engineer. As a 10-year-old boy, I had to learn how to fix it if I want to play games. And it is the first time I know that what "Any Key" is.
jbandela1 3y ago
I thought XP was a downgrade from Windows 2000.
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Izkata 3y ago

Vista -> 7 generally didn't get such complaints either.

wongarsu 3y ago
The same can be said for Windows 8 -> Windows 10. But that's mostly because Vista and 8 were exceptional low points. You can even empirically show that by how abysmally bad their sales were. According to [1], Vista peaked at 25% market share (of Windows installations), when XP still had >70% and Windows 7 was just releasing. Windows 8 (including 8.1) similarly peaked at around 25% right before the release of Windows 10, at a time where Windows 7 held 65% market share, with the rest going to XP. Statista tells a similar story [2] [3] 1: https://windowsreport.com/windows-market-share-history/ https://windowsreport.com/windows-market-share-history/ 2: https://www.statista.com/chart/4225/windows-market-share-by-version/ https://www.statista.com/chart/4225/windows-market-share-by-... 3: https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows-operating-system-market-share/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/993868/worldwide-windows...

bsder 3y ago

XP was good for its time. Vista was garbage but necessary. Windows 7 was actively good. Windows 8 was a dumpster fire. Windows 10 would be good if it wasn't riddled with all the dark patterns which make it merely adequate. Windows 11 is going to make the Windows 8 dumpster fire look good by comparison.

bigstrat2003 3y ago
Vista was fine too. I ran it for years, never had a single issue. I've seen it said that the problem with Vista was the system requirements were way too low, which I guess makes sense but I can't really confirm or deny. I built a machine well above the minimum specs so I never noticed any issues.

doubled112 3y ago

If you stuck with 98 SE instead of using ME, XP was likely a worse experience on the hardware you had as well. If you had ME, all bets were off. Edit: On the right machine, ME was fine though. Much like Vista after SP2 and really late in it's lifetime.

AndrewDavis 3y ago
I used ME for a while. I must say it was extremely performant, shaved off about 15-20 seconds of boot time (compared to 98 SE) off my Athlon XP 2000+ machine. A cold boot in about 25 seconds. Which was a real time saver because it crashed every 2-3 hours.
- ammo1662 3y ago
  > Which was a real time saver because it crashed every 2-3 hours. That's exactly how I started my career as an engineer. As a 10-year-old boy, I had to learn how to fix it if I want to play games. And it is the first time I know that what "Any Key" is.

jbandela1 3y ago

I thought XP was a downgrade from Windows 2000.

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