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So strange. Was firing him really the best decision for you? Given the challenges of finding and onboarding top-tier talent (this guy was brilliant, the best yo

So strange. Was firing him really the best decision for you? Given the challenges of finding and onboarding top-tier talent (this guy was brilliant, the best you ever worked with), couldn't your company have worked something out? There are a million arrangements possible -- agreeing to him working one (but not two) additional jobs (going from 33 to 50% of his time is a 50% increase for you), giving him a raise or some equity component, switching to some sort of contracting/1099 arrangement, allow him to be a "thought leader" on architecture and big-picture but not a day-to-day coder, whatever. The decision to just fire this brilliant guy without considering other options seems so short-sighted and sub-optimal (for the company).

feoren 3y ago
The company I work for has a lot of stupid bullshit. My coping mechanism for this stupid bullshit is to complain loudly about it, and try ineffectually to get it changed. What I will not do, ever, is lie to my bosses and use that bullshit as some justification. Both of these things are true: (1) their company should deal with their own bullshit so they can actually retain top talent, and also (2) firing the liar was absolutely the right move. Lies have no place in the professional world, ever.
- listenallyall 3y ago
  You're projecting. Nowhere in the story is any mention of lying, or denying that he had multiple jobs.
  - feoren 3y ago
    > He was brilliant. But also a con artist. Yes, it was very clearly stated that he was a liar. A "con artist" is a significantly bigger liar than a mere "liar". > You're projecting. Hmm. "It's not OK to do X. I refuse to do X and you should not tolerate people who do it." That's projecting? I think you need to look up what that word means. Unless you're literally accusing me of being a liar specifically because I am against lying? Some kind of "takes one to know one" Grade-school jab? What exactly are you on about?
    - listenallyall 3y ago
      If the managers found evidence that he was working 3 jobs, asked him about it, and he denied it, then yes 100% he'd be a liar. Nowhere in the story does it say he denied anything, protested, faked or exaggerated his contributions, etc. His only deficiency, according to the story, was not enough time. I'm saying you're projecting because you assumed he lied in some way, when the story doesn't say that.

feoren 3y ago

The company I work for has a lot of stupid bullshit. My coping mechanism for this stupid bullshit is to complain loudly about it, and try ineffectually to get it changed. What I will not do, ever, is lie to my bosses and use that bullshit as some justification. Both of these things are true: (1) their company should deal with their own bullshit so they can actually retain top talent, and also (2) firing the liar was absolutely the right move. Lies have no place in the professional world, ever.

listenallyall 3y ago
You're projecting. Nowhere in the story is any mention of lying, or denying that he had multiple jobs.
- feoren 3y ago
  > He was brilliant. But also a con artist. Yes, it was very clearly stated that he was a liar. A "con artist" is a significantly bigger liar than a mere "liar". > You're projecting. Hmm. "It's not OK to do X. I refuse to do X and you should not tolerate people who do it." That's projecting? I think you need to look up what that word means. Unless you're literally accusing me of being a liar specifically because I am against lying? Some kind of "takes one to know one" Grade-school jab? What exactly are you on about?
  - listenallyall 3y ago
    If the managers found evidence that he was working 3 jobs, asked him about it, and he denied it, then yes 100% he'd be a liar. Nowhere in the story does it say he denied anything, protested, faked or exaggerated his contributions, etc. His only deficiency, according to the story, was not enough time. I'm saying you're projecting because you assumed he lied in some way, when the story doesn't say that.