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It's always a bad thing when people want to give you praise rather than pay and benefits for your work. If you value their work, you should pay them adequately

It's always a bad thing when people want to give you praise rather than pay and benefits for your work. If you value their work, you should pay them adequately rather than act like they are in it for the good feels. Also, covid was a huge missed opportunity for creating standards for distributing health info and instructions via internet in a sensible fashion to prevent the ERs and hospitals from being so overwhelmed and thereby actively spreading the infection. Also a missed opportunity for developing a healthier set of social expectations and best practices for how to have reasonable and productive discussions of health topics in the face of uncertainty and possible death. We really seem to have screwed that pooch globally, or at least in English-speaking spaces.

colechristensen 3y ago
>It's always a bad thing when people want to give you praise rather than pay and benefits for your work. Sure, but even if you pay me a lot you're still expected to be nice to me. >Also, covid was a huge missed opportunity for creating standards for distributing health info and instructions via internet in a sensible fashion to prevent the ERs and hospitals from being so overwhelmed and thereby actively spreading the infection. Was it? Tele-health boomed during the pandemic to the point where I've sometimes had trouble getting in-person appointments when I felt it was necessary. >Also a missed opportunity for developing a healthier set of social expectations and best practices for how to have reasonable and productive discussions of health topics in the face of uncertainty and possible death. We really seem to have screwed that pooch globally, or at least in English-speaking spaces. Also, did it really? I feel like we've made a lot of progress against the "go to work even if you're sick" idea being a virtue and enabled a lot of people to work from home while a little sick and made people considerably more willing to just stay home when they were sick. The CDC and related government entities really fucked up when they sent out messaging that cared more about results of the message than the truth of the message. They started out by discouraging masks and then changed tack. They exaggerated advice and never clearly represented uncertainty. The headline message was never about the best that was known at the time and the confidence in that message to try to empower people to make their own decisions. Instead they pretended to certainty that was impossible and encouraged pro/anti message moralization so that your health choices were supposed to be collective instead of individual and aligned with your political affiliation instead of your own situation and appetite for risk.
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  I wasn't talking about telehealth. My most recent experience with an organization doing video meetings instead of face to face was pretty negative. I felt it seriously impaired communication. I'm someone who hasn't lived "conventionally" in a lot of years and I seem to generally be out of step with popular opinion. I think it was or I wouldn't have said it. Granted, personal opinions and individual experiences will vary. We do a poor job generally of accounting for that online. If your experiences fall outside the Overton Window, you may be accused of being a liar rather than a statistical outlier.
- Ylpertnodi 3y ago
  >but even if you pay me a lot you're still expected to be nice to me. If I pay you 'a lot', get back to work and stop fucking moaning.
  - colechristensen 3y ago
    No. If you pay me a lot it’s because I’m not easy to replace, but you are. You’ll listen and are expected to be more responsive or I’ll happily leave you in the dust for a more respectful competitor.
rightbyte 3y ago
Praise is nice though. At least they have social status. The absurd strawman argument would be to make their work day worse to increase compensation by decreasing supply of doctors and nurses.
- DoreenMichele 3y ago
  If they praise you and pay you, cool. If they praise you rather than pay you, it's a problem.
- csdreamer7 3y ago
  > The absurd strawman argument would be to make their work day worse to increase compensation by decreasing supply of doctors and nurses. I doubt you should assume that with the growth of venture capital owned medical facilities.

colechristensen 3y ago

>It's always a bad thing when people want to give you praise rather than pay and benefits for your work. Sure, but even if you pay me a lot you're still expected to be nice to me. >Also, covid was a huge missed opportunity for creating standards for distributing health info and instructions via internet in a sensible fashion to prevent the ERs and hospitals from being so overwhelmed and thereby actively spreading the infection. Was it? Tele-health boomed during the pandemic to the point where I've sometimes had trouble getting in-person appointments when I felt it was necessary. >Also a missed opportunity for developing a healthier set of social expectations and best practices for how to have reasonable and productive discussions of health topics in the face of uncertainty and possible death. We really seem to have screwed that pooch globally, or at least in English-speaking spaces. Also, did it really? I feel like we've made a lot of progress against the "go to work even if you're sick" idea being a virtue and enabled a lot of people to work from home while a little sick and made people considerably more willing to just stay home when they were sick. The CDC and related government entities really fucked up when they sent out messaging that cared more about results of the message than the truth of the message. They started out by discouraging masks and then changed tack. They exaggerated advice and never clearly represented uncertainty. The headline message was never about the best that was known at the time and the confidence in that message to try to empower people to make their own decisions. Instead they pretended to certainty that was impossible and encouraged pro/anti message moralization so that your health choices were supposed to be collective instead of individual and aligned with your political affiliation instead of your own situation and appetite for risk.

DoreenMichele 3y ago
I wasn't talking about telehealth. My most recent experience with an organization doing video meetings instead of face to face was pretty negative. I felt it seriously impaired communication. I'm someone who hasn't lived "conventionally" in a lot of years and I seem to generally be out of step with popular opinion. I think it was or I wouldn't have said it. Granted, personal opinions and individual experiences will vary. We do a poor job generally of accounting for that online. If your experiences fall outside the Overton Window, you may be accused of being a liar rather than a statistical outlier.
Ylpertnodi 3y ago
>but even if you pay me a lot you're still expected to be nice to me. If I pay you 'a lot', get back to work and stop fucking moaning.
- colechristensen 3y ago
  No. If you pay me a lot it’s because I’m not easy to replace, but you are. You’ll listen and are expected to be more responsive or I’ll happily leave you in the dust for a more respectful competitor.

rightbyte 3y ago

Praise is nice though. At least they have social status. The absurd strawman argument would be to make their work day worse to increase compensation by decreasing supply of doctors and nurses.

DoreenMichele 3y ago
If they praise you and pay you, cool. If they praise you rather than pay you, it's a problem.
csdreamer7 3y ago
> The absurd strawman argument would be to make their work day worse to increase compensation by decreasing supply of doctors and nurses. I doubt you should assume that with the growth of venture capital owned medical facilities.