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I think org-mode has several fairly orthogonal use cases, including literate programming (your Jupyter reference), outlining, markup, task management, spreadshe

I think org-mode has several fairly orthogonal use cases, including literate programming (your Jupyter reference), outlining, markup, task management, spreadsheets, and many more. And the community has done an amazing job of implementing all of these really well, each for itself, while still maintaining a working ecosystem. But I only use a small subset of that when I use org mode. The amount of metadata that needs to be included in a full-blown org-mode document seems to be increasing, and I feel more and more like I am writing a specification with verbose syntax (and personally, I find "#+BEGIN ... #+END" blocks or similar keywords unappealing).

taeric 3y ago
Literate programming is rather distinct from notebook style, though? I can see surface comparisons, but they are very different. I can see not finding the markup appealing, but that is why you would export for viewing? And, outside of moving some of that to a binary format, I don't know how you could get this level of stuff in band? I suppose you could strictly hide it in view? Would probably still want the markup in data. None of which is answering what makes it non ergonomic? Basic text with an actual table format is about what I'd hope for it to be. What is off? Links are different. Everyone seems to redo that idea. Rst files, I still always get wrong on first tries.