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Branching the whole database (data included) seems really great. Congrats! It does seem a bit pricey though. For $69/month (Scale), I could rent a dedicated se

Branching the whole database (data included) seems really great. Congrats! It does seem a bit pricey though. For $69/month (Scale), I could rent a dedicated server with 8 dedicated CPUs, twice the RAM and 20x the storage (and that's physically attached NVMe in raid 1), and have money to spare: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax/ https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ax/

shinypokemon 2y ago
(Neon DevRel) By all means, self-host Neon and come talk about it in our Discord (https://neon.tech/discord https://neon.tech/discord)! Cheeky jokes aside, you can definitely go down the hetzner/VPS route. Not everyone has the expertise or desire to spend time doing so, but if you do, then go for it I say. We have some nifty features that are non-trivial to recreate, but again, it depends on your needs.
dustyduster 2y ago
$69/month is peanuts for anyone running something that hopes to make any amount of money. Developer and operational experience, uptime, etc. seem way more important. Just getting to skip dealing with all that nonsense and focus on whether your idea / startup has any value whatsoever seems far more important. (Obviously if it's just like a hobby deal then run it on a cheap VPS).
hamandcheese 2y ago
Unless it's enough money to spare to pay someone to manage Postgres on the server and scale it up and down as needed, this isn't that useful a comparison. As an avid self-hoster, by all means, self host Postgres! But self hosted Postgres is not the same product as managed Postgres.
riku_iki 2y ago
> For $69/month (Scale) this also doesn't cover 100% uptime, but only 300h, and you will pay extra for each extra hour.
- shinypokemon 2y ago
  The Scale plan includes enough hours to run 1 CPU and 4GB of memory for the month.
  - riku_iki 2y ago
    Agree, I looked at wrong plan, sorry for confusion.
    - shinypokemon 2y ago
      All good! Each tier includes enough compute hours to run a database 24/7. Just with varying levels of CPU/RAM and storage.

shinypokemon 2y ago

(Neon DevRel) By all means, self-host Neon and come talk about it in our Discord (https://neon.tech/discord https://neon.tech/discord)! Cheeky jokes aside, you can definitely go down the hetzner/VPS route. Not everyone has the expertise or desire to spend time doing so, but if you do, then go for it I say. We have some nifty features that are non-trivial to recreate, but again, it depends on your needs.

dustyduster 2y ago

$69/month is peanuts for anyone running something that hopes to make any amount of money. Developer and operational experience, uptime, etc. seem way more important. Just getting to skip dealing with all that nonsense and focus on whether your idea / startup has any value whatsoever seems far more important. (Obviously if it's just like a hobby deal then run it on a cheap VPS).

hamandcheese 2y ago

Unless it's enough money to spare to pay someone to manage Postgres on the server and scale it up and down as needed, this isn't that useful a comparison. As an avid self-hoster, by all means, self host Postgres! But self hosted Postgres is not the same product as managed Postgres.

riku_iki 2y ago

> For $69/month (Scale) this also doesn't cover 100% uptime, but only 300h, and you will pay extra for each extra hour.

shinypokemon 2y ago
The Scale plan includes enough hours to run 1 CPU and 4GB of memory for the month.
- riku_iki 2y ago
  Agree, I looked at wrong plan, sorry for confusion.
  - shinypokemon 2y ago
    All good! Each tier includes enough compute hours to run a database 24/7. Just with varying levels of CPU/RAM and storage.