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Gay Bomb

28 points by hammock 3y ago

jl6 3y ago
Would have been more effective just to spray the enemy with hallucinogens.
- chrischen 3y ago
  Along that line what if you dropped cocaine or heroine over the enemy country? These things are cheap to produce.
  - hammock 3y ago
    What about crack? Even cheaper, and you could distribute it in the inner cities (or wherever it made sense) to control a target population
  - dzhiurgis 3y ago
    400M fentanyl pills seized in US last year, 70% of them lethal.
- tyingq 3y ago
  I would guess you wouldn't even need to make it a weapon. Just airdrop ready-to-use drugs across their positions. Enough bored and/or shell shocked soldiers will self administer.
- MilStdJunkie 3y ago
  Google Edgewood Arsenal and the BZ munition. Long story short - just like with gay bombs and all these other sorts of Cold War esoterica - is that humans are really complicated, and war is even more complicated. Turns out making people gay or psychotic - even if the chemicals did work at doing this, which is dubious given their tenuous understanding of what "gay" or "psychosis" was - doesn't actually reduce their warfighting capability. Sometimes, it even made a tenable tactical situation much worse. Now, when it came to making people think they were going crazy, that's where these substances really started to find some traction, but that wasn't a military application. More the territory of the CIA headshrinkers.
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deadbabe 3y ago
There might be a good movie idea here about a platoon struck by a gay bomb and dealing with the subsequent ramifications in their conservative society and families. The guy closest to the center of the blast is made super gay and the guys toward the edges of the radius less so, a few outside of the radius might be bi-curious at best. But there could also be a message for how society treats its veterans in general when they return from war.
- jijijijij 3y ago
  Rammstein - Mann gegen Mann comes to mind. Let's have it directed by Tarantino.
topherPedersen 3y ago
Sounds like the Chinese and the Russians may have successfully deployed this weapon against their arch rival.
- brink 3y ago
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  - searke 3y ago
    Hardly taboo. Casual homophobic comments like these are all over the internet. If you have some interesting but edgy thoughts about people's ... lifestyle, try posting something thoughtful instead of this.
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  - nerdjon 3y ago
    It really isn't fair to ask that, it makes no sense. Religion and a lack of societal understanding (largely fueled by religion) is a very easy explanation. More people today feel safe coming out or even know what being gay is. It is being a fairly regular thing that people are discovering their sexuality at a late age due to society telling them they need to be a certain way so they conform. There isn't anything sinister or suspicious about people actually being who they are when society doesn't keep telling them they are wrong or sick. Your statistic is severely flawed because those are specifically people who are out. We have known for a long time that sexuality is a spectrum, you may consider yourself straight but that doesn't mean that you are 100% straight. I mean I consider myself gay but I can still appreciate when a woman is very attractive. Doesn't mean I want to sleep with her but I am obviously not 100% gay. Sexuality is complex and we are finally being more open about that.
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micromacrofoot 3y ago
this is such a strangely specific avenue of attack, it kind of displays how codified the fear of homosexuality has been in the united states — there are dozens of known methods (even in the 70s) that I would expect to be vastly more effective without much additional research
- jijijijij 3y ago
  Also sexual repression and sexism in general. The assumptions about human sexuality made here... I presume the people coming up with this were particularly out of touch. Literally. The idea is really mind boggling ignorant.
nerdjon 3y ago
(Side note: Slightly confused about why this was posted here, now? It was updated today due to vandalism but still confused). Regardless.... Unless I am missing something it seems like this was only ever a paper and not actually tested. Which is good. I do find the pheromones thing interesting, as a gay man myself I feel like you could likely ask almost any gay man and they could confirm that particular thing. But I am curious if they have done any research on Bi people to see if it holds true as we would expect?
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Gay Bomb

28 points by hammock 3y ago

jl6 3y ago

Would have been more effective just to spray the enemy with hallucinogens.

chrischen 3y ago
Along that line what if you dropped cocaine or heroine over the enemy country? These things are cheap to produce.
- hammock 3y ago
  What about crack? Even cheaper, and you could distribute it in the inner cities (or wherever it made sense) to control a target population
- dzhiurgis 3y ago
  400M fentanyl pills seized in US last year, 70% of them lethal.
tyingq 3y ago
I would guess you wouldn't even need to make it a weapon. Just airdrop ready-to-use drugs across their positions. Enough bored and/or shell shocked soldiers will self administer.
MilStdJunkie 3y ago
Google Edgewood Arsenal and the BZ munition. Long story short - just like with gay bombs and all these other sorts of Cold War esoterica - is that humans are really complicated, and war is even more complicated. Turns out making people gay or psychotic - even if the chemicals did work at doing this, which is dubious given their tenuous understanding of what "gay" or "psychosis" was - doesn't actually reduce their warfighting capability. Sometimes, it even made a tenable tactical situation much worse. Now, when it came to making people think they were going crazy, that's where these substances really started to find some traction, but that wasn't a military application. More the territory of the CIA headshrinkers.

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deadbabe 3y ago

There might be a good movie idea here about a platoon struck by a gay bomb and dealing with the subsequent ramifications in their conservative society and families. The guy closest to the center of the blast is made super gay and the guys toward the edges of the radius less so, a few outside of the radius might be bi-curious at best. But there could also be a message for how society treats its veterans in general when they return from war.

jijijijij 3y ago
Rammstein - Mann gegen Mann comes to mind. Let's have it directed by Tarantino.

topherPedersen 3y ago

Sounds like the Chinese and the Russians may have successfully deployed this weapon against their arch rival.

brink 3y ago
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- searke 3y ago
  Hardly taboo. Casual homophobic comments like these are all over the internet. If you have some interesting but edgy thoughts about people's ... lifestyle, try posting something thoughtful instead of this.
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- nerdjon 3y ago
  It really isn't fair to ask that, it makes no sense. Religion and a lack of societal understanding (largely fueled by religion) is a very easy explanation. More people today feel safe coming out or even know what being gay is. It is being a fairly regular thing that people are discovering their sexuality at a late age due to society telling them they need to be a certain way so they conform. There isn't anything sinister or suspicious about people actually being who they are when society doesn't keep telling them they are wrong or sick. Your statistic is severely flawed because those are specifically people who are out. We have known for a long time that sexuality is a spectrum, you may consider yourself straight but that doesn't mean that you are 100% straight. I mean I consider myself gay but I can still appreciate when a woman is very attractive. Doesn't mean I want to sleep with her but I am obviously not 100% gay. Sexuality is complex and we are finally being more open about that.
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- graypegg 3y ago

micromacrofoot 3y ago

this is such a strangely specific avenue of attack, it kind of displays how codified the fear of homosexuality has been in the united states — there are dozens of known methods (even in the 70s) that I would expect to be vastly more effective without much additional research

jijijijij 3y ago
Also sexual repression and sexism in general. The assumptions about human sexuality made here... I presume the people coming up with this were particularly out of touch. Literally. The idea is really mind boggling ignorant.

nerdjon 3y ago

(Side note: Slightly confused about why this was posted here, now? It was updated today due to vandalism but still confused). Regardless.... Unless I am missing something it seems like this was only ever a paper and not actually tested. Which is good. I do find the pheromones thing interesting, as a gay man myself I feel like you could likely ask almost any gay man and they could confirm that particular thing. But I am curious if they have done any research on Bi people to see if it holds true as we would expect?

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