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Ahaha. JvN is the demiurge regnant (not Einstein, btw) so a single implementation of the quantum Harvard architecture could in principle be sufficient to deluge

Ahaha. JvN is the demiurge regnant (not Einstein, btw) so a single implementation of the quantum Harvard architecture could in principle be sufficient to deluge away the globalist-techno-nuclear-feudalism But maybe postvonneumann is already here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40029014 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40029014

082349872349872 3y ago
> This is not always due to severe pathologies I don't know about severe, but it seems like something about that approach ought to count as pathological... Given the "nuclear" term of globalist-techno-nuclear-feudalism I'm not rooting for any deluges, more an erosion via steady precipitation, or perhaps just a rising tide? (compare https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Tel/Recoltes-et-Semailles-I-II https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Tel/Recoltes-et... as explained by https://people.math.harvard.edu/~knill/teaching/math22b2019/handouts/lecture15.pdf https://people.math.harvard.edu/~knill/teaching/math22b2019/... )
- vinnyvichy 3y ago
  Ah right, Grothendieck, the less violent (albeit less effective) unabomber. He could have been a postJvN contender but alas, too laid back on implementations XD Kolmogorov option OTOH (as summarized by his life) could be the optimal interpolate https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376 https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    AKA the Benjamin option? When asked whether [Old Benjamin, the donkey] was not happier now that Jones was gone, he would say only "Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead donkey," and the others had to be content with this cryptic answer.
    - 082349872349872 3y ago
      Thinking about this a little more: As per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40084498 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40084498 , Kolmogorov operated in an environment where he had to temper courage and only prudently seek justice. — Children, you are the owners of the camp. You! What is required of you, my friends? — (ALL IN CHORUS) DISCIPLINE! How about Galkin option? (as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40012335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40012335 ) It doesn't solve the global problem, but it certainly widens one's local domain.
      - vinnyvichy 2y ago
        World of tomorrow/travel (well, "(quantum) tunneling") documents to the future. JJ's framework is after all based on classic Indo-Judeo-Christo-European one of nerds vs jocks/2 estates against the 3rd. Kolmogorov a bit more interesting: when given the choice of projected socio-disciplinary impact, or a concrete chance to indulge in imagination, that is, to live, not, to "live" (in the sense expounded in the Talmud) , he lived. Can't fit this into JJ's dichotomy. Quantum nonlocality, something JvN had not grown up breathing, but K,AN had. Saw to it later, the very postwar counter-counter-revolution.
        082349872349872 2y ago
        Any particular bit of Kolmogorov biography I should be paying attention to? Interesting now that, like Bertrand Russell and his Beacon Hill School, ANK was tempted to realise an ideal school, and even involved himself with Potylikhin school. I read somewhere about a playground design, with a climbing structure that was made so that the paths reachable from each other were age-appropriate; I wonder if it'd be possible to create series of questions, such that the distances in between each question would be just far enough that autodidacts could figure out what they needed to learn to reach the next... Tunnelling documents to the (2084?) future? that sounds like a Явление Чрезвычайное?
        082349872349872 2y ago

082349872349872 3y ago

> This is not always due to severe pathologies I don't know about severe, but it seems like something about that approach ought to count as pathological... Given the "nuclear" term of globalist-techno-nuclear-feudalism I'm not rooting for any deluges, more an erosion via steady precipitation, or perhaps just a rising tide? (compare https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Tel/Recoltes-et-Semailles-I-II https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Tel/Recoltes-et... as explained by https://people.math.harvard.edu/~knill/teaching/math22b2019/handouts/lecture15.pdf https://people.math.harvard.edu/~knill/teaching/math22b2019/... )

vinnyvichy 3y ago
Ah right, Grothendieck, the less violent (albeit less effective) unabomber. He could have been a postJvN contender but alas, too laid back on implementations XD Kolmogorov option OTOH (as summarized by his life) could be the optimal interpolate https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376 https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=3376
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  AKA the Benjamin option? When asked whether [Old Benjamin, the donkey] was not happier now that Jones was gone, he would say only "Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead donkey," and the others had to be content with this cryptic answer.
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    Thinking about this a little more: As per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40084498 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40084498 , Kolmogorov operated in an environment where he had to temper courage and only prudently seek justice. — Children, you are the owners of the camp. You! What is required of you, my friends? — (ALL IN CHORUS) DISCIPLINE! How about Galkin option? (as per https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40012335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40012335 ) It doesn't solve the global problem, but it certainly widens one's local domain.
    - vinnyvichy 2y ago
      World of tomorrow/travel (well, "(quantum) tunneling") documents to the future. JJ's framework is after all based on classic Indo-Judeo-Christo-European one of nerds vs jocks/2 estates against the 3rd. Kolmogorov a bit more interesting: when given the choice of projected socio-disciplinary impact, or a concrete chance to indulge in imagination, that is, to live, not, to "live" (in the sense expounded in the Talmud) , he lived. Can't fit this into JJ's dichotomy. Quantum nonlocality, something JvN had not grown up breathing, but K,AN had. Saw to it later, the very postwar counter-counter-revolution.
      - 082349872349872 2y ago
        Any particular bit of Kolmogorov biography I should be paying attention to? Interesting now that, like Bertrand Russell and his Beacon Hill School, ANK was tempted to realise an ideal school, and even involved himself with Potylikhin school. I read somewhere about a playground design, with a climbing structure that was made so that the paths reachable from each other were age-appropriate; I wonder if it'd be possible to create series of questions, such that the distances in between each question would be just far enough that autodidacts could figure out what they needed to learn to reach the next... Tunnelling documents to the (2084?) future? that sounds like a Явление Чрезвычайное?
        082349872349872 2y ago