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Give me a map and I'll find a way for an off-site carousel. I can see a huge amount of wasted space below freeway interchanges which encircle central Houston.

Give me a map and I'll find a way for an off-site carousel. I can see a huge amount of wasted space below freeway interchanges which encircle central Houston. Just build two storey deep FSD offsites below all of these. US is a weird outlier but many other places already have good public transit. FSD offsite parking they still can explore.

komali2 3y ago
In Taiwan we turned the under-bridge areas into markets, basketball courts, concrete parks (for BBQ or whatever), and skate parks. In Japan they do one better and turned them into full blown malls and shopping areas. No matter where you want to put a parking lot, there's something better, more beneficial to society, less environmentally damaging, more conducive to a nice place to live, and more capitalistically valuable than the parking lot that can go there instead. And if you want to start talking about drilling holes in the ground to put parking lots, great, let's make them horizontal instead and spend that money on a subway. Cars are simply a bad solution to moving people, automated or otherwise. Ever hear the story about how they had to take realistic parking lots out of sim city, because they made the game boring? There's a reason for that.
- thriftwy 3y ago
  All that does not preclude Taiwan from having a car per 3 people, and that includes infants and the elderly, as the saying goes. If you have these cars, stop pretending you don't need to handle the traffic. You do.
  - komali2 2y ago
    1 per 3 people? We're at like 2.8 per 10 in Taiwan. If Taiwan had 1 car per 3 people the country would be in permanent gridlock, there's absolutely not enough road infrastructure to handle that. Taipei already experiences near gridlock every single rushhour. We handle traffic with busses, MRT, docked bicycle rental system, and also the fact that our cities are very dense, with lots of small businesses like restaurants easily accessible from your house within a five minute walk. I'm arguing to get rid of the cars. Taiwan should do the same, for the record. I mean, the classic image illustrates the point perfectly https://danielbowen.com/2012/09/19/road-space-photo/ https://danielbowen.com/2012/09/19/road-space-photo/ there's just no way to justify private cars in a modern era with cities having multi-millions of people.

komali2 3y ago

In Taiwan we turned the under-bridge areas into markets, basketball courts, concrete parks (for BBQ or whatever), and skate parks. In Japan they do one better and turned them into full blown malls and shopping areas. No matter where you want to put a parking lot, there's something better, more beneficial to society, less environmentally damaging, more conducive to a nice place to live, and more capitalistically valuable than the parking lot that can go there instead. And if you want to start talking about drilling holes in the ground to put parking lots, great, let's make them horizontal instead and spend that money on a subway. Cars are simply a bad solution to moving people, automated or otherwise. Ever hear the story about how they had to take realistic parking lots out of sim city, because they made the game boring? There's a reason for that.

thriftwy 3y ago
All that does not preclude Taiwan from having a car per 3 people, and that includes infants and the elderly, as the saying goes. If you have these cars, stop pretending you don't need to handle the traffic. You do.
- komali2 2y ago
  1 per 3 people? We're at like 2.8 per 10 in Taiwan. If Taiwan had 1 car per 3 people the country would be in permanent gridlock, there's absolutely not enough road infrastructure to handle that. Taipei already experiences near gridlock every single rushhour. We handle traffic with busses, MRT, docked bicycle rental system, and also the fact that our cities are very dense, with lots of small businesses like restaurants easily accessible from your house within a five minute walk. I'm arguing to get rid of the cars. Taiwan should do the same, for the record. I mean, the classic image illustrates the point perfectly https://danielbowen.com/2012/09/19/road-space-photo/ https://danielbowen.com/2012/09/19/road-space-photo/ there's just no way to justify private cars in a modern era with cities having multi-millions of people.