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> Wonder if this is the reason: https://x.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456 https://x.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456 What's the big deal? Th
by tivert 3y ago
> Wonder if this is the reason: https://x.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456 https://x.com/garageklub/status/1779571445930324456
What's the big deal? They could just fix a problem like that with software. Just patch in an emergency acceleration shutdown button in a sub-menu on the touchscreen (e.g. hit truck, "Controls", select a new "disable jammed accelerator", click confirm).
- amluto 3y agoI assume you’re joking :) For what it’s worth, at least some Tesla models turn off acceleration when the brake is pressed more than a little bit.
- lm28469 3y agoTesla fans should go to the Olympics and compete in mental gymnastics
- dang 3y agoOk, but please don't post flamebait or snark HN. We've had orders of magnitude too many of these, and this is one of the most tedious topics. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- jplrssn 3y agoI've never driven an EV but I'm curious about this statement. When would continuing to accelerate ever be the desired behaviour when pressing both pedals at the same time?
- aftbit 3y agoI don't think it would be. I read parent post as "when pressed enough to trigger the switch, the brake pedal has priority and disables acceleration." There may be a tiny amount of pressure that you can put on the brake pedal before it detects the press.
- ssl-3 3y agoIn normal driving (EV or ICE), no. There's some corner cases where using both can be beneficial (like heel-toe downshifts with manual gearboxes, or changing the way torque is steered on AWD), but they're generally pretty far removed from the way that driving is usually taught or performed.
- amluto 3y agoEven the classic parking brake hill start in a manual car involves braking and applying engine torque at the same time, despite the fact that the brake pedal isn’t being pressed. But starting on a hill in a conventional automatic with a torque converter also involves either rolling back a bit or pressing the accelerator a bit before releasing the brake.
- reddit_clone 3y ago>But starting on a hill in a conventional automatic with a torque converter also involves either rolling back a bit or pressing the accelerator a bit before releasing the brake. Felt deeply in San Francisco. I think newer cars rollback less than older cars. Either way, it is unnerving when driving in Lombard street. You can't pay me enough to drive in SFO in a stick shift.
- AlexandrB 3y agoMany modern stick shifts have "hill hold"[1] that keeps the car still until the clutch makes contact. Still, would need good throttle/clutch control not to stall after that. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill-holder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill-holder
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- toast0 3y agoIt's handy to have brakes and acceleration when you want to spin the tires (2wd). Sometimes necessary for tricky hill starts, I won't fully remove the brake until I feel the accelerator moving the car forward, but that should fit within the GP's 'little bit'. EVs should be easier on hill starts because there's potential for less latency between input and power delivery, but I dunno; I don't care for driving east across downtown Seattle regardless of if I'm in an all gas or a PHEV.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago"Hill start" buttons have been standard on ICE cars for some time now. Hell, my 1987 Toyota pickup had one. You could put it in 1st gear, let the clutch out and then turn the key to start, if you were on a very steep hill. Comes in handy offroad.
- toast0 3y agoMy 2017 Chrysler Pacifica doesn't have a hill start button (nor does it just do it, afaik, which I've had with some rentals), so I'm not so sure it's standard on ICE cars for some time. My 2014 PHEV does have a button, but I don't use it, because when I'm in the situation that needs it, there's usually cars behind me, and that's not a good time to test and see how it works.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y agoFair enough. I should have used the word "common" instead of "standard."
- 83 3y agoIt can be pretty useful in offroading to hold a medium-high amount of throttle and use the brakes to modulate as they're more responsive, but it's hard to picture a cybertruck doing that kind of offroading. Not to mention it's only necessary due to the throttle/drivetrain response curve - that might be entirely negated if the low speed throttle response in the EV is decent enough for crawling.
- amluto 3y agoStarting on a hill is the common case, for me anyway. I also imagine that two-foot drivers would prefer for the effect of pressing the brake to be smooth, and having the slightest touch instantly reduce motor torque to zero could be jarring.
- RulerOf 3y agoIt's the most straightforward way to get your brake lights to come on without actually slowing down. I've done it a few times to make people following too closely back off of my rear bumper.
- dragonwriter 3y agoFrom what I’ve heard of the CT behavior, there is software limited acceleration speed when the brake pedal is engage, but acceleration isn't disabled.
- rurp 3y agoOh man, as someone who has driven a tesla in the rain where the automatic wipers didn't work and I had to frantically dig through touch screen menus on the highway, this sounds all too real.
- jacktribe 3y agoThere's still a physical button for the wipers. On the Cybertruck it's on the steering wheel. When you press it to wipe (generally used for spray-washing the windshield), the entire menu pops up where you can choose the speed, frequency, etc.
- theogravity 3y agoMine also has a physical button, but it only triggers a single wipe. My workflow is usually press physical button, then touch the manual setting on the touchscreen to continuously operate.
- kashyapp 3y agoYou don't need to touch the screen after that. The left scroll wheel can navigate through the menu. I discovered this by chance. And it seems to be subtly mentioned in the manual. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-A5C33F3D-E41D-4671-ADE5-C2FB73203323.html#:~:text=To%20adjust%20the%20wiper%20settings,for%20both%20wipe%20and%20wash https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modely/en_us/GUID-A5C33F3....
- mohaine 3y agoWipers in on the stick or a dedicated button if a stickless version. Why not use that? It also brings up the selector on the screen if it the automation doesn't kick in after the manual trigger.
- theogravity 3y agoMy auto-wipers on my 2018 M3 never seem to work at all. I always have to manually set it.
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- ssl-3 3y agoHah. Perfect. When my 6,500 pound cybertruck starts unexpectedly accelerating at a rate that can reach 100MPH in ~7 seconds, the very first thing I am going to be doing is scanning the dashboard for an abort button that has never been there before.