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> Any story using AI help must clearly mention this within the first two paragraphs. What’s AI here? Is the spelling correction tool in Google Docs "AI"? Are t

by hk__2 3y ago

> Any story using AI help must clearly mention this within the first two paragraphs. What’s AI here? Is the spelling correction tool in Google Docs "AI"? Are the suggestions from my iPhone "AI"? This is the kind of very vague sentence written by someone who doesn’t understand AI.

lelandfe 3y ago
https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/22576852947223-Artificial-Intelligence-AI-content-policy https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/22576852947223-Art... > We define AI-generated writing as writing where the majority of the content has been created by an AI-writing program with little or no edits, improvements, fact-checking, or changes. This does not include AI writing tools such as AI outlining, or AI assisted fact, spelling, or grammar checkers > Do I need to disclose the use of AI-assistance such as grammar or spell checkers, outline assistance, or fact verification? > No, you do not need to disclose this use. You must disclose if you are using text or images generated by AI
- barfbagginus 3y ago
  This is not very clear about the case where the text is AI generated and substantially edited, fact checked, and improved by a human co-author. I think that kind of writing is perfectly valid. AI contexts can now include primary references, and with human critique, AI can fix a lot of its own style and factuality issues. A good author writing this way will end up writing in their own voice, but spend less time drafting and revising, since they can delegate that to their AI assistant.
  - lelandfe 3y ago
    I believe that would be, from my link, "AI-assistive." Such text would need "a disclosure at the beginning of the story (within the first two paragraphs)." The reason given is, "in practice, AI-assist is often a way to insert small snippets of AI-generated content that often suffers from the same problems as fully AI- generated stories." In other words, readers need a heads up that, no matter how well-edited the text is, there's a chance of hallucinated junk to be found within. I'm sure I'm missing some edge cases, but this all seems pretty darn lucid to me!
    - barfbagginus 3y ago
      I feel it's fair to filter out writing that is fully AI without human proofing. That's because that writing is awful. However, assuming an author competently edits and proofs the final work, I don't need or want to know if they used AI. Just like I don't need to know if they used a human intern, editor, or other co-author - assuming the co-author did not demand attribution. Let's stick to worrying about lazy and incompetent authors. There is no reason to penalize otherwise competent authors for co-authoring with AI. Prediction: This is going to hurt medium, by driving off competent AI assisted writers. They will find inclusive platforms. And frankly I'm glad. Medium is a plague on the internet, and needs to die horribly. This is the way.
- hk__2 3y ago
  Thanks; it’s not very clear that "AI help" excludes "AI-assistance".
skywhopper 3y ago
They mean "entire posts generated by LLMs". They aren't going after AI-assistance. They are telling you not to set up your content spam farm on Medium.

by hk__2 3y ago

lelandfe 3y ago

https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/22576852947223-Artificial-Intelligence-AI-content-policy https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articles/22576852947223-Art... > We define AI-generated writing as writing where the majority of the content has been created by an AI-writing program with little or no edits, improvements, fact-checking, or changes. This does not include AI writing tools such as AI outlining, or AI assisted fact, spelling, or grammar checkers > Do I need to disclose the use of AI-assistance such as grammar or spell checkers, outline assistance, or fact verification? > No, you do not need to disclose this use. You must disclose if you are using text or images generated by AI

barfbagginus 3y ago
This is not very clear about the case where the text is AI generated and substantially edited, fact checked, and improved by a human co-author. I think that kind of writing is perfectly valid. AI contexts can now include primary references, and with human critique, AI can fix a lot of its own style and factuality issues. A good author writing this way will end up writing in their own voice, but spend less time drafting and revising, since they can delegate that to their AI assistant.
- lelandfe 3y ago
  I believe that would be, from my link, "AI-assistive." Such text would need "a disclosure at the beginning of the story (within the first two paragraphs)." The reason given is, "in practice, AI-assist is often a way to insert small snippets of AI-generated content that often suffers from the same problems as fully AI- generated stories." In other words, readers need a heads up that, no matter how well-edited the text is, there's a chance of hallucinated junk to be found within. I'm sure I'm missing some edge cases, but this all seems pretty darn lucid to me!
  - barfbagginus 3y ago
    I feel it's fair to filter out writing that is fully AI without human proofing. That's because that writing is awful. However, assuming an author competently edits and proofs the final work, I don't need or want to know if they used AI. Just like I don't need to know if they used a human intern, editor, or other co-author - assuming the co-author did not demand attribution. Let's stick to worrying about lazy and incompetent authors. There is no reason to penalize otherwise competent authors for co-authoring with AI. Prediction: This is going to hurt medium, by driving off competent AI assisted writers. They will find inclusive platforms. And frankly I'm glad. Medium is a plague on the internet, and needs to die horribly. This is the way.
hk__2 3y ago
Thanks; it’s not very clear that "AI help" excludes "AI-assistance".

skywhopper 3y ago

They mean "entire posts generated by LLMs". They aren't going after AI-assistance. They are telling you not to set up your content spam farm on Medium.