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Living in a sparsely populated area is the luxury here. You can live somewhere rural, somewhere small, but still within biking distance of everything you need d

by kristo 2y ago

Living in a sparsely populated area is the luxury here. You can live somewhere rural, somewhere small, but still within biking distance of everything you need daily and within train or bus of weekly needs.

DarkNova6 2y ago
I'm afraid missing the nuances of people's livelihood is exactly the point I tried to make: > If you ignore the needs of those people, you only strengthen political forces who also support big oil. There needs to be a middle ground. How are you even transporting your weekly groceries without a car? What if you have family? And do you also use your bike during heavy rain/winter/strong heat? It just doesn't work in practice. Virtually nobody moves to rural areas. People have been living there for generations. You can't expect them to mass-migrate somewhere else you must address their needs. If people have the impression that nobody supports them, you get extremists.
- prmoustache 2y ago
  > How are you even transporting your weekly groceries without a car? My bicycle rear rack is rated for 25KG and I have 2 70L bags, my Wald front basket can handle some additionnal load and I converted my old kids trailer to carry groceries too. I can carry enough. But you don't have to buy a week worth of groceries in a single day. Also we are in 2024. Supermarkets do deliveries. > What if you have family? There are seats for toddlers and cargo bikes and trailers for those that need to carry more than one. After that kids love cycling. We are constantly saying humans have a way too sedentary life and people need to exercise in order to be healthy. You have here a solution much cheaper both in term of time and money than going to the gym. > And do you also use your bike during heavy rain/winter/strong heat? You just deal with it the same way you do when you have to walk from your car in that huge parking lot to the place you are actually going to. The only limiter is climbs. But if I was limited by my climbing capacity while loaded I would use an e-bike.

by kristo 2y ago

DarkNova6 2y ago

I'm afraid missing the nuances of people's livelihood is exactly the point I tried to make: > If you ignore the needs of those people, you only strengthen political forces who also support big oil. There needs to be a middle ground. How are you even transporting your weekly groceries without a car? What if you have family? And do you also use your bike during heavy rain/winter/strong heat? It just doesn't work in practice. Virtually nobody moves to rural areas. People have been living there for generations. You can't expect them to mass-migrate somewhere else you must address their needs. If people have the impression that nobody supports them, you get extremists.

prmoustache 2y ago
> How are you even transporting your weekly groceries without a car? My bicycle rear rack is rated for 25KG and I have 2 70L bags, my Wald front basket can handle some additionnal load and I converted my old kids trailer to carry groceries too. I can carry enough. But you don't have to buy a week worth of groceries in a single day. Also we are in 2024. Supermarkets do deliveries. > What if you have family? There are seats for toddlers and cargo bikes and trailers for those that need to carry more than one. After that kids love cycling. We are constantly saying humans have a way too sedentary life and people need to exercise in order to be healthy. You have here a solution much cheaper both in term of time and money than going to the gym. > And do you also use your bike during heavy rain/winter/strong heat? You just deal with it the same way you do when you have to walk from your car in that huge parking lot to the place you are actually going to. The only limiter is climbs. But if I was limited by my climbing capacity while loaded I would use an e-bike.