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Tesla Allegedly Pauses Cybertruck Deliveries

24 points by wzm 2y ago

DarkNova6 2y ago
I can't help but to feel schadenfreude. It's what you get with what looks like a "meme-first" approach to product design. Also, am I the only one who keeps thinking of the Simpson's Canyonero when reading cybertruck news? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA
- rickdeckard 2y ago
  I think much more of "The Homer", the car that was designed solely to Homer Simpson's specification... https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Homer https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Homer
- drivingmenuts 2y ago
  I think of the Aztek and its beautiful styling (compared to the Cybertruck). And also Truckla, which is the (apparently) the most problem-free Tesla truck. Right now, Tesla should be kneeling at Simone Giertz’s feet, begging for her help.
bearjaws 2y ago
They had a ton of demand for them, but when the reality set in that stainless steel is a nightmare to align (sub 10-micron accuracy!!) and a nightmare to maintain, the car fell into the niche category. How it got this far will be written about for a decade, a great example of not performing real world testing and validation. You know somewhere deep in Tesla product people and engineers we're warning of the issues to come, but Elon had to have his Halo warthog.
- epgui 2y ago
  Why don’t we just wait to see how things play out before making that kind of judgment? Production has barely started to ramp.
  - drawkward 2y ago
    Things have been playing out before our eyes for a few years now. I know, because I put down a deposit for a cybertruck on Day 1. Glad I canceled it several months ago.
  - cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
    We don’t need Elon to discover the properties of stainless steel for us, thanks.
    - epgui 2y ago
      I think you vastly underestimate the complexity of metal chemistry.
  - DonHopkins 2y ago
    If by "barely started to ramp" you mean "paused". Edit: or "laid off more than 10% of their global workforce". https://electrek.co/2024/04/15/tesla-lays-off-more-than-10-of-its-global-workforce/ https://electrek.co/2024/04/15/tesla-lays-off-more-than-10-o... >But the squeeze on the company’s operating margin — which came in at 8.2% in the fourth quarter, down from the 16% for last year — remains, and Tesla has warned investors to brace that vehicle volume growth this year “may be notably lower” than the rate logged in 2023, noting it is “currently between two major growth waves.” https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/tesla-shares-dip-in-premarket-trade-on-global-layoff-reports.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/tesla-shares-dip-in-premarke... >Tesla will lay off more than 10% of global workforce: Read the Elon Musk memo >The company’s stock was down 1.20% in premarket deals at roughly 7:30 a.m. ET. >“As we prepare the company for our next phase of growth, it is extremely important to look at every aspect of the company for cost reductions and increasing productivity,” Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in an internal memo obtained by CNBC. >[...] But the squeeze on the company’s operating margin — which came in at 8.2% in the fourth quarter, down from the 16% for last year — remains, and Tesla has warned investors to brace that vehicle volume growth this year “may be notably lower” than the rate logged in 2023, noting it is “currently between two major growth waves.”
  - gengwyn 2y ago
    > Why don’t we just wait to see how things play out before making that kind of judgment? The car was announced in November 2019 - almost 5 years ago. Delivery was delayed by 2 years and the car still clearly has manufacturing defects. Things have played out.
- Oarch 2y ago
  I'm curious how stainless steel is a nightmare to maintain. My (basic) understanding of the material is it's meant to be very low maintenance.
  - qarl 2y ago
    No clear coat. > To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.). Do not wait until Cybertruck is due for a complete wash. If necessary, use denatured alcohol to remove tar spots and stubborn grease stains, then immediately wash the area with water and a mild, non-detergent soap to remove the alcohol. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-653...
    - Kirby64 2y ago
      Literally any car will have its clear coat eaten away from the same list of corrosive substances. It’s very common to get rings around where bird poop drops on a car and sits, because it etches the clear coat. Don’t see how this recommendation is different.
      - qarl 2y ago
        LOL. I've been buying new cars for 40 years now and I've never had my paint damaged by bird poop. Maybe the birds are more corrosive where you live.
        Kirby64 2y ago
        I don’t know where you’ve been, but you can find endless articles about bird poop etching paint. With plenty of photos too. Here’s a few: https://www.adamsforums.com/topic/38396-can-this-be-removed-bird-poop-etch-with-pics/ https://www.adamsforums.com/topic/38396-can-this-be-removed-... https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/bird-poop-ruined-my-clear-coat-paint.4335/ https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/bird-poop-ruined-my-cle... https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-your-detailing-questions-/124765-how-repair-clear-coat-damage-bird-poop.html https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-your-detailing-ques...
- bdcravens 2y ago
  When I saw my first one in the Houston area I noticed they had already wrapped it (for as ugly as I think it is, the black wrap with the LED headlights actually was kind of sharp)
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DonHopkins 2y ago
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socar 2y ago
>Get yourself killed in Tezla Garbage Truck because someone skimped on adhesive quality and quantity keeping decal in place Genious move by master visionary richest person in the world who sleeps on factory floor to save humanity

24 points by wzm 2y ago

I can't help but to feel schadenfreude. It's what you get with what looks like a "meme-first" approach to product design. Also, am I the only one who keeps thinking of the Simpson's Canyonero when reading cybertruck news? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA

rickdeckard 2y ago
I think much more of "The Homer", the car that was designed solely to Homer Simpson's specification... https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Homer https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/The_Homer
drivingmenuts 2y ago
I think of the Aztek and its beautiful styling (compared to the Cybertruck). And also Truckla, which is the (apparently) the most problem-free Tesla truck. Right now, Tesla should be kneeling at Simone Giertz’s feet, begging for her help.

bearjaws 2y ago

They had a ton of demand for them, but when the reality set in that stainless steel is a nightmare to align (sub 10-micron accuracy!!) and a nightmare to maintain, the car fell into the niche category. How it got this far will be written about for a decade, a great example of not performing real world testing and validation. You know somewhere deep in Tesla product people and engineers we're warning of the issues to come, but Elon had to have his Halo warthog.

epgui 2y ago
Why don’t we just wait to see how things play out before making that kind of judgment? Production has barely started to ramp.
- drawkward 2y ago
  Things have been playing out before our eyes for a few years now. I know, because I put down a deposit for a cybertruck on Day 1. Glad I canceled it several months ago.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 2y ago
  We don’t need Elon to discover the properties of stainless steel for us, thanks.
  - epgui 2y ago
    I think you vastly underestimate the complexity of metal chemistry.
- DonHopkins 2y ago
  If by "barely started to ramp" you mean "paused". Edit: or "laid off more than 10% of their global workforce". https://electrek.co/2024/04/15/tesla-lays-off-more-than-10-of-its-global-workforce/ https://electrek.co/2024/04/15/tesla-lays-off-more-than-10-o... >But the squeeze on the company’s operating margin — which came in at 8.2% in the fourth quarter, down from the 16% for last year — remains, and Tesla has warned investors to brace that vehicle volume growth this year “may be notably lower” than the rate logged in 2023, noting it is “currently between two major growth waves.” https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/tesla-shares-dip-in-premarket-trade-on-global-layoff-reports.html https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/15/tesla-shares-dip-in-premarke... >Tesla will lay off more than 10% of global workforce: Read the Elon Musk memo >The company’s stock was down 1.20% in premarket deals at roughly 7:30 a.m. ET. >“As we prepare the company for our next phase of growth, it is extremely important to look at every aspect of the company for cost reductions and increasing productivity,” Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in an internal memo obtained by CNBC. >[...] But the squeeze on the company’s operating margin — which came in at 8.2% in the fourth quarter, down from the 16% for last year — remains, and Tesla has warned investors to brace that vehicle volume growth this year “may be notably lower” than the rate logged in 2023, noting it is “currently between two major growth waves.”
- gengwyn 2y ago
  > Why don’t we just wait to see how things play out before making that kind of judgment? The car was announced in November 2019 - almost 5 years ago. Delivery was delayed by 2 years and the car still clearly has manufacturing defects. Things have played out.
Oarch 2y ago
I'm curious how stainless steel is a nightmare to maintain. My (basic) understanding of the material is it's meant to be very low maintenance.
- qarl 2y ago
  No clear coat. > To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.). Do not wait until Cybertruck is due for a complete wash. If necessary, use denatured alcohol to remove tar spots and stubborn grease stains, then immediately wash the area with water and a mild, non-detergent soap to remove the alcohol. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-65384C1F-86F2-44E8-A8BC-8A12E7E00A40.html https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/cybertruck/en_us/GUID-653...
  - Kirby64 2y ago
    Literally any car will have its clear coat eaten away from the same list of corrosive substances. It’s very common to get rings around where bird poop drops on a car and sits, because it etches the clear coat. Don’t see how this recommendation is different.
    - qarl 2y ago
      LOL. I've been buying new cars for 40 years now and I've never had my paint damaged by bird poop. Maybe the birds are more corrosive where you live.
      - Kirby64 2y ago
        I don’t know where you’ve been, but you can find endless articles about bird poop etching paint. With plenty of photos too. Here’s a few: https://www.adamsforums.com/topic/38396-can-this-be-removed-bird-poop-etch-with-pics/ https://www.adamsforums.com/topic/38396-can-this-be-removed-... https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/bird-poop-ruined-my-clear-coat-paint.4335/ https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/bird-poop-ruined-my-cle... https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-your-detailing-questions-/124765-how-repair-clear-coat-damage-bird-poop.html https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-your-detailing-ques...
bdcravens 2y ago
When I saw my first one in the Houston area I noticed they had already wrapped it (for as ugly as I think it is, the black wrap with the LED headlights actually was kind of sharp)

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socar 2y ago

>Get yourself killed in Tezla Garbage Truck because someone skimped on adhesive quality and quantity keeping decal in place Genious move by master visionary richest person in the world who sleeps on factory floor to save humanity