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I've heard the same thing about Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Tiktok. "I won't ever join those. Those are for kids. Those are weird. Why would I join them."

I've heard the same thing about Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn and Tiktok. "I won't ever join those. Those are for kids. Those are weird. Why would I join them." Society rules our lives far more than people are willing to admit to themselves.

piva00 2y ago
Sure but I personally know 3 people in Sweden who got rid of their Teslas and won't ever purchase one again, that is from a very small anecdote but if it has happened within my very low sample size I'd guess that others are sharing a similar sentiment. Two of those are older folks, not even that connected with tech in general (or much of the internet vitriol), if Musk's bad press is reaching them it seems to me a quite generalised issue.
- astrolx 2y ago
  The bad press is particularly bad in Sweden and was all over the main media, with Musk refusing to sign collective agreements with Tesla employees there, leading to strikes [e.g 1,2]. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/10/elon-musk-sweden-unions-tesla-labour-car https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/10/elon-m... [2]: http://www.nordiclabourjournal.org/i-fokus/in-focus-2023/theme-tripartite-negotiations-and-collective-agreements/article.2023-12-05.3752230341 http://www.nordiclabourjournal.org/i-fokus/in-focus-2023/the...
roland35 2y ago
Eh only one of those examples includes the CEO literally retweeting nazi-adjacent stuff so it's a bit easier for me to hold tight on Tesla. Even my wife who is not a big tech follower will never consider a Tesla now.
- choko 2y ago
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  - meepmorp 2y ago
    > Musk is too conservative for you Is white replacement now just conservative ideology these days?
    - aaronbrethorst 2y ago
      yes. https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/03/04/donald-trump-rallies-in-richmond-super-tuesday https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/03/04/donald-trump...
    - otikik 2y ago
      It always was, since inception. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/20/us/replacement-theory-white-supremacist-buffalo-shooter/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/20/us/replacement-theory-whi...
  - publius_0xf3 2y ago
    The conservative Sohrab Ahmari recently wrote a piece in which even he found Musk to be too conservative for his tastes. One of his complaints: >A popular white-nationalist account with the handle “IAmYesYouAreNo” posts a meme declaring, “You are witnessing the biggest act of cuckoldry in human history. An entire civilisation willingly giving away its land and women.” Musk quotes the post, adding in his own words, “Accurate” (he has since deleted the response). What's the mitigating context here? Can you adequately explain it for me?
    - nova22033 2y ago
      https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1050391663552671744?lang=en https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/105039166355267174... Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views Me: Holy shit! You were censored for wanting lower taxes? Con: LOL no...no not those views Me: So....deregulation? Con: Haha no not those views either Me: Which views, exactly? Con: Oh, you know the ones
  - dvngnt_ 2y ago
    What's the context for his burner accounts https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-burner-account-role-play-toddler-son_n_66140de1e4b0c063ffb9e8a0 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-burner-account-role...
deaddodo 2y ago
I don't have a Facebook, Twitter or TikTok. And LinkedIn exists as nothing more than a glorified resume for me. What is your point? I couldn't care less what other people do, only where my standards/beliefs lie. I can't/won't ever support Tesla due to Musk. If he didn't benefit from my purchase, I almost definitely would have done so.
tapoxi 2y ago
Teslas don't experience the network effect like a social network does, especially since they've opened up NACS/Supercharger to other car manufacturers.

piva00 2y ago

Sure but I personally know 3 people in Sweden who got rid of their Teslas and won't ever purchase one again, that is from a very small anecdote but if it has happened within my very low sample size I'd guess that others are sharing a similar sentiment. Two of those are older folks, not even that connected with tech in general (or much of the internet vitriol), if Musk's bad press is reaching them it seems to me a quite generalised issue.

astrolx 2y ago
The bad press is particularly bad in Sweden and was all over the main media, with Musk refusing to sign collective agreements with Tesla employees there, leading to strikes [e.g 1,2]. [1]: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/10/elon-musk-sweden-unions-tesla-labour-car https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/10/elon-m... [2]: http://www.nordiclabourjournal.org/i-fokus/in-focus-2023/theme-tripartite-negotiations-and-collective-agreements/article.2023-12-05.3752230341 http://www.nordiclabourjournal.org/i-fokus/in-focus-2023/the...

roland35 2y ago

Eh only one of those examples includes the CEO literally retweeting nazi-adjacent stuff so it's a bit easier for me to hold tight on Tesla. Even my wife who is not a big tech follower will never consider a Tesla now.

choko 2y ago
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- meepmorp 2y ago
  > Musk is too conservative for you Is white replacement now just conservative ideology these days?
  - aaronbrethorst 2y ago
    yes. https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/03/04/donald-trump-rallies-in-richmond-super-tuesday https://www.axios.com/local/richmond/2024/03/04/donald-trump...
  - otikik 2y ago
    It always was, since inception. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/20/us/replacement-theory-white-supremacist-buffalo-shooter/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/20/us/replacement-theory-whi...
- publius_0xf3 2y ago
  The conservative Sohrab Ahmari recently wrote a piece in which even he found Musk to be too conservative for his tastes. One of his complaints: >A popular white-nationalist account with the handle “IAmYesYouAreNo” posts a meme declaring, “You are witnessing the biggest act of cuckoldry in human history. An entire civilisation willingly giving away its land and women.” Musk quotes the post, adding in his own words, “Accurate” (he has since deleted the response). What's the mitigating context here? Can you adequately explain it for me?
  - nova22033 2y ago
    https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1050391663552671744?lang=en https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/105039166355267174... Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views Me: Holy shit! You were censored for wanting lower taxes? Con: LOL no...no not those views Me: So....deregulation? Con: Haha no not those views either Me: Which views, exactly? Con: Oh, you know the ones
- dvngnt_ 2y ago
  What's the context for his burner accounts https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-burner-account-role-play-toddler-son_n_66140de1e4b0c063ffb9e8a0 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-burner-account-role...

deaddodo 2y ago

I don't have a Facebook, Twitter or TikTok. And LinkedIn exists as nothing more than a glorified resume for me. What is your point? I couldn't care less what other people do, only where my standards/beliefs lie. I can't/won't ever support Tesla due to Musk. If he didn't benefit from my purchase, I almost definitely would have done so.

tapoxi 2y ago

Teslas don't experience the network effect like a social network does, especially since they've opened up NACS/Supercharger to other car manufacturers.