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Heh. The won't be more coal in .de, even the approved projects aren't being built, and the theory that more coal would be burned hasn't come true yet. The grap
by Arnt 3y ago
Heh. The won't be more coal in .de, even the approved projects aren't being built, and the theory that more coal would be burned hasn't come true yet.
The graphs are clear: coal shrunk from 33% to 26% of electric power generation last year. Some people expected an increase. They were wrong and the greens were right.
- LunaSea 3y ago> The graphs are clear: coal shrunk from 33% to 26% of electric power generation last year. Some people expected an increase. This is in part due to the fact that Germany is now able to import more energy compared to 2022 which saw a decrease in gas availability but also a reduction in nuclear energy production in France due to technical issues.
- Arnt 3y agoSure. The amount of coal burned decreased by about 30%, and the decrease would have been different if this/that. It would not have been an increase though, and the people who predicted an increase ended up being wrong by a large factor. The question is just exactly how large.
- KingOfCoders 3y agoNo, just take a look at installed power in Germany. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/paragraphs/images/fig1-installed-net-power-generation-capacity-germany-2002-2023.png https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/g...
- LunaSea 3y agoInstalled power is meaningless. The question is if you are producing enough energy at the time where it is needed by the consumers.
- KingOfCoders 3y ago1. Germany is an energy exporter 3/4th of the year. In the quarter where Germany does import energy, it so because Germany is not needing enough energy and power plants are turned off. When Germany imports energy, coal based energy in Germany is 50% down. Imports are replacing coal. (Which should be obvious, because running coal plants has fuel costs, solar and wind have no fuel operating costs) 2. This is a 18th century view. Modern states since the 19th century operate on the comparative advantage idea. e.G. Germany imports nearly 100% of electronics (toys, tools) it is using. Countries do not need to produce everything they need, they can import from other countries.
- LunaSea 3y ago> 1. Germany is an energy exporter 3/4th of the year. Do you have a source for this? The sources I seem to find contradict this assertion: - https://www.iea.org/countries/germany/energy-mix#:~:text=Energy%20imports%20and%20exports https://www.iea.org/countries/germany/energy-mix#:~:text=Ene... - https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependence-imported-fossil-fuels#:~:text=4.%20Germany%27s%20import%20dependence https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-dependen... > 2. This is a 18th century view. Modern states since the 19th century operate on the comparative advantage idea. e.G. Germany imports nearly 100% of electronics (toys, tools) it is using. Countries do not need to produce everything they need, they can import from other countries. This is not how energy works, especially not renewable energy. When it's sunny in Germany, neighbouring countries will also be producing and trying to export solar energy at the same time.
- KingOfCoders 3y agoIf all cars (trucks not included) in Germany would be EVs, those could store all (!) the electric energy needed for 2 days.
- LunaSea 3y agoWhy should an electric car owner lend their very expensive car's batteries for public use?
- sgt 3y agoWhat is that imported energy based on?
- youngtaff 3y agoMainly gas and wind
- ptero 3y agoAre those numbers for Germany or for the world? If for Germany, OK -- it is (still) a rich country and can pay for it's choices, including importing electricity at whatever the market prices for it. Although it's manufacturing has been hit pretty bad. But for the world the total use of fossil fuels is going to keep growing long-term unless we mass switch to nuclear, which is unlikely. My 2c.
- Arnt 3y agoFor Germany. I live in a manufacturing city in .de btw, and the "badly hit" manufacturers are hiring.
- ptero 3y agoManufacturers are hiring due to the workers being very scarce (older ones retiring, young ones not coming in the same numbers). That doesn't tell the story of growth or decline in manufacturing (e.g., COBOL hiring doesn't tell the story of it's growth, just that supply is shrinking faster than the demand). Look for the total industrial output instead.
- Arnt 3y agoOr just look at the headline of this page. Tesla is firing. BMW is not.
- ptero 3y agoCOBOL shops are hiring, while Apple, Cisco and Google just had layoffs. This tells us nothing about COBOL technology growth and future. Ah well, I have expressed my point, it is not a popular one at HN.
- hajile 3y agoThe real question would be: Did BMW go on a massive hiring spree in 2021-2022 like most US companies did? If not, then the comparison doesn't make any sense.