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But DeepL is fine apparently (as it should be in my opinion) so I guess this is going to be a random dice roll what maintainers will allow or not. I can unders
by t-sauer 2y ago
But DeepL is fine apparently (as it should be in my opinion) so I guess this is going to be a random dice roll what maintainers will allow or not.
I can understand the sentiment behind this proposal, but it is way too nuanced and complicated to just solve it with a few basic rules.
- moooo99 2y agoI am confused, how is a translator comparable to an LLM that primarily serves as a generator? Just because it’s powered by some neural network behind the scenes?
- t-sauer 2y agoThat's precisely my point. What does "AI-backed" mean exactly? The RFC doesn't ban LLM, but "AI-backed" contributions. Technically from my understanding and interpretation DeepL would fall under that category and would be banned from being used but in the linked thread people seem to agree that DeepL usage is fine. So where do you draw the line? How do you define which "AI-backed" contributions are still fine and which aren't. Eventually different contributors will have different opinions and it will get messy.
- moooo99 2y agoAt this points it’s just playing word games imho. The RFC specifically mentions tools like Bard, ChatGPT and Co-Pilot as what it considers to be ban-worthy. If I’m going to be extremely pedantic about it: with Co-Pilot, the a actual contents of the contribution are AI generated. With a translator like DeepL, the contents are authored by the contributor, the translation tool just translations what’s already there
- exitb 2y agoIt's similar in that regard that it might be wrong sometimes. It's also similar, as coding LLM may be used to translate code between languages.
- GaggiX 2y agoBoth Deepl and LLM use transformer decoders, a type of generative models.
- johnisgood 2y agoDeepL, as in, the translator? That is very different from random text unrelated to the project.
- t-sauer 2y agoDeepL is an AI-backed translator. If I use it to help me write my documentation, how is it different?
- johnisgood 2y agoI do not see how translating your own writing vs. generating unrelated text is NOT different. What does AI-backed mean in this case, though, if not translating your OWN text?
- layer8 2y ago> is fine apparently What are you referring to? I agree that “AI” needs to be more closely defined, as for example using A* search is also AI.