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The entire thing was simply that he had donated to some Christian organisations, some of which spent some of their time advocating against gay marriage. That wa

The entire thing was simply that he had donated to some Christian organisations, some of which spent some of their time advocating against gay marriage. That was it.

michaelmrose 3y ago
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bjord 3y ago
incorrect—eich donated to the campaign for california proposition 8, which was "a state constitutional amendment intended to ban same-sex marriage", and actually passed at the time, but was later overturned in court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8
- SuperNinKenDo 3y ago
  Pretty sure that fits with what I said. But whatever.
- weberer 3y ago
  This was also back in 2008 when even Obama was quoted as defining marriage as "the union between a man and a woman" [1]. So that begs the question: Why did Eich get so much more scrutiny than even Obama? Why did the media seemingly coordinate to do hit pieces on him? And why the CEO of an open-source browser with < 5% market share, and not the massive big-tech incumbents? [1] https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/08/obama-says-marriage-is-between-man-and-woman-011026 https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/08/obama-says-...
  - foldr 3y ago
    Obama opposed Proposition 8: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Obama-opposes-proposed-ban-on-gay-marriage-3278328.php https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Obama-opposes-proposed-b...
  - bjord 3y ago
    my opinions about morality aside, someone pointed out elsewhere that mozilla specifically has an outsized relationship with the LGBTQ+ community, thus making it practically impossible for him to be an effective leader there he himself actually literally said as much: "Our mission is bigger than any one of us, and under the present circumstances, I cannot be an effective leader. I will be taking time before I decide what to do next." [1] it was reported on beforehand [2], but as far as I'm reading, there wasn't a serious outcry until 2014, six years after the donation, after he was appointed as CEO (and subsequently ousted) as for politicians, I think they're by definition mealy-mouthed, and they often just say what they think people want to hear at any given time [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20200711120251/https://abcnews.go.com/Business/mozilla-ceo-resigns-calif-gay-marriage-ban-campaign/story?id=23181711 https://web.archive.org/web/20200711120251/https://abcnews.g... [2] https://www.thepinknews.com/2012/04/04/javascript-inventor-gave-1000-to-support-californias-gay-marriage-ban/ https://www.thepinknews.com/2012/04/04/javascript-inventor-g...

The entire thing was simply that he had donated to some Christian organisations, some of which spent some of their time advocating against gay marriage. That was it.

michaelmrose 3y ago

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bjord 3y ago

incorrect—eich donated to the campaign for california proposition 8, which was "a state constitutional amendment intended to ban same-sex marriage", and actually passed at the time, but was later overturned in court https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8

SuperNinKenDo 3y ago
Pretty sure that fits with what I said. But whatever.
weberer 3y ago
This was also back in 2008 when even Obama was quoted as defining marriage as "the union between a man and a woman" [1]. So that begs the question: Why did Eich get so much more scrutiny than even Obama? Why did the media seemingly coordinate to do hit pieces on him? And why the CEO of an open-source browser with < 5% market share, and not the massive big-tech incumbents? [1] https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/08/obama-says-marriage-is-between-man-and-woman-011026 https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2008/08/obama-says-...
- foldr 3y ago
  Obama opposed Proposition 8: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Obama-opposes-proposed-ban-on-gay-marriage-3278328.php https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Obama-opposes-proposed-b...
- bjord 3y ago
  my opinions about morality aside, someone pointed out elsewhere that mozilla specifically has an outsized relationship with the LGBTQ+ community, thus making it practically impossible for him to be an effective leader there he himself actually literally said as much: "Our mission is bigger than any one of us, and under the present circumstances, I cannot be an effective leader. I will be taking time before I decide what to do next." [1] it was reported on beforehand [2], but as far as I'm reading, there wasn't a serious outcry until 2014, six years after the donation, after he was appointed as CEO (and subsequently ousted) as for politicians, I think they're by definition mealy-mouthed, and they often just say what they think people want to hear at any given time [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20200711120251/https://abcnews.go.com/Business/mozilla-ceo-resigns-calif-gay-marriage-ban-campaign/story?id=23181711 https://web.archive.org/web/20200711120251/https://abcnews.g... [2] https://www.thepinknews.com/2012/04/04/javascript-inventor-gave-1000-to-support-californias-gay-marriage-ban/ https://www.thepinknews.com/2012/04/04/javascript-inventor-g...