That's interesting point. EDIT: but you removed your critique of "resonable" which lessens my reply. All said, your right... its not a market. But in a sense

That's interesting point. EDIT: but you removed your critique of "resonable" which lessens my reply. All said, your right... its not a market. But in a sense the truly-self respecting position is unashamedly "unreasonable" by definition. It's "selfish" and often blinded by it. It says, "reasonableness" is over-rated. :) Indeed there's always a tension between self-regarding and other-regarding values. Take markets, they do it to us too. A company can be very confident and bullish about its value but the market says otherwise can set it into downward spiral. And as you say governments, taxes and legal impositions do the same. And yet there's always the possibility for bloody mindedness, or Churchillian "doggedness". Not to deny reality, but to resist it with every fibre and see a longer term picture. From the outside what is obstinate, unyielding looks ugly, even childish. But internally perseverance, resoluteness and tenacity can feel amazing, and so often triumph in the end. I'd say many of the most successful business people are completely "unreasonable", as are political figures like Nelson Mandela for whom 27 years in prison is just part of the journey. It comes down to that George Bernard Shaw quote; "" The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ""