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I thing you'll like 'A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson'. It's on youtube on a channel called 'Some More News'.

by BMc2020 3y ago

tim333 3y ago
I watched a bit of that and a bit of the start of the biblical lectures (https://youtu.be/f-wWBGo6a2w https://youtu.be/f-wWBGo6a2w) The Some More News is a bit unfair in that he's going on about something he doesn't understand - climate science. Whereas on his home turf of the Bible he's pretty good. I mean if you'd interviewed Einstein on say salsa dancing you might have thought he's an idiot. It's not a good way to judge.
defrost 3y ago
At just under three hours it's still shorter than Peterson answering a Y/N question.
- lll-o-lll 3y ago
  Is that intended as a snide criticism? I see so often an attempt to force “controversial” commentators into answering “yes or no!” as some sort of “gotcha”. Often the argument is that simplistic reduction of a nuanced stance is the actual problem being argued against. I see no issue with refusal to engage in the game as rigged by an opponent.
  - defrost 3y ago
    Nothing snide there at all, he's a straight up mediocre waffling university house chair warmer. After 40 odd years avoiding such time wasters in AU, the UK, the US, Canada, etc. it was kind of odd to see a small part of the zeitgeist latch onto and elevate him.
    - alfor 3y ago
      Either he has something interesting to say but it take some effort to understand or you are right. Choose your adventure
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    German has the word "Jein", allowing people to quickly answer neither yes nor no.
alfor 3y ago
It's not very convincing. JBP is an academic and yes he is a bit hard to understand, that doesn't mean that it's nonsense, just that it will take more time to grasp his positions. You can start with his university class in psycology: personality and transformation, I think it's the easiest starting point. Then map of meaning. I much prefer his lectures, live talks and podcast to the writings that are contrived and a bit overworked to my taste.
- wenebego 3y ago
  Considering the video is 3 hours long and you replied 1 hour after it being suggested, is it possible you didnt watch the whole thing and might be missing the convincing portion?
  - alfor 3y ago
    I started and it was ad hominem right at the start. So I judged it was not worth watching the whole thing. Is there a section I should watch? What are the arguments against him? I have watched all his university class and most of his talk, 100's of hours of material. I am very familiar with his positions. But when I first heard about him I had a strong reaction against his positions and his complicated language. I was primed by CBC to hate him and I was trying to find a good reason. At the same time my cursiosity was activated so I watch him more and understood more and more. So yes, he is not easy to understand, it take a lot of effort but it's been worth it for me.

I thing you'll like 'A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson'. It's on youtube on a channel called 'Some More News'.

I watched a bit of that and a bit of the start of the biblical lectures (https://youtu.be/f-wWBGo6a2w https://youtu.be/f-wWBGo6a2w) The Some More News is a bit unfair in that he's going on about something he doesn't understand - climate science. Whereas on his home turf of the Bible he's pretty good. I mean if you'd interviewed Einstein on say salsa dancing you might have thought he's an idiot. It's not a good way to judge.

defrost 3y ago

At just under three hours it's still shorter than Peterson answering a Y/N question.

lll-o-lll 3y ago
Is that intended as a snide criticism? I see so often an attempt to force “controversial” commentators into answering “yes or no!” as some sort of “gotcha”. Often the argument is that simplistic reduction of a nuanced stance is the actual problem being argued against. I see no issue with refusal to engage in the game as rigged by an opponent.
- defrost 3y ago
  Nothing snide there at all, he's a straight up mediocre waffling university house chair warmer. After 40 odd years avoiding such time wasters in AU, the UK, the US, Canada, etc. it was kind of odd to see a small part of the zeitgeist latch onto and elevate him.
  - alfor 3y ago
    Either he has something interesting to say but it take some effort to understand or you are right. Choose your adventure
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  German has the word "Jein", allowing people to quickly answer neither yes nor no.

alfor 3y ago

It's not very convincing. JBP is an academic and yes he is a bit hard to understand, that doesn't mean that it's nonsense, just that it will take more time to grasp his positions. You can start with his university class in psycology: personality and transformation, I think it's the easiest starting point. Then map of meaning. I much prefer his lectures, live talks and podcast to the writings that are contrived and a bit overworked to my taste.

wenebego 3y ago
Considering the video is 3 hours long and you replied 1 hour after it being suggested, is it possible you didnt watch the whole thing and might be missing the convincing portion?
- alfor 3y ago
  I started and it was ad hominem right at the start. So I judged it was not worth watching the whole thing. Is there a section I should watch? What are the arguments against him? I have watched all his university class and most of his talk, 100's of hours of material. I am very familiar with his positions. But when I first heard about him I had a strong reaction against his positions and his complicated language. I was primed by CBC to hate him and I was trying to find a good reason. At the same time my cursiosity was activated so I watch him more and understood more and more. So yes, he is not easy to understand, it take a lot of effort but it's been worth it for me.