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This looks great! I was just looking in to Clerk as a solution for user management, so this is definitely a timely product, for me. And it looks to be a very ea

This looks great! I was just looking in to Clerk as a solution for user management, so this is definitely a timely product, for me. And it looks to be a very easy integration because I could start out with the hosted version and then move to self hosting. I really like that feature! Unfortunately, my project is not using jsx, so I can't really implement anything that relies on it. I would love to check this out, if I can use it without Next.js or any kind of jsx compatability. But, until then, it's not something useful for any of my use cases.

cco 3y ago
We support any stack via our API over here at Stytch, take a look! Would love to hear feedback.
- catapart 3y ago
  Oh, awesome! Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much value-add over Clerk or Auth0. Looks like Stych is going to lock me in to a vendor just as much as the other two, so I'd have to compare them based on those merits alone. So far, Clerk has a more permissive free tier for B2C users. Also, it's a pretty big red flag - for me, personally - when a site promises that I can export my data, but requires me to request it via email rather than having a straightforward automated process that will provide me an export in an exact, known format. Put simply: if you haven't figured out how to automate data export (even with many complex options), then I don't have much faith in you to do other stuff with the care I would expect.
  - cco 3y ago
    Appreciate the look and feedback! > Also, it's a pretty big red flag - for me, personally - when a site promises that I can export my data, but requires me to request it via email rather than having a straightforward automated process that will provide me an export in an exact, known format. Put simply: if you haven't figured out how to automate data export (even with many complex options), then I don't have much faith in you to do other stuff with the care I would expect. We let you export any and all data automatically from our API (via Search or Get Users), the only data we don't allow you to export by default is password hashes. Anything else you can pull at any time. We require a human-in-the-loop process there so we can ensure out of band that the request is valid and not coming from compromised API keys etc. I'm not sure if there are any auth services that would provide an automated way to dump password hashes, I'd be nervous if there were given the security concerns.

cco 3y ago

We support any stack via our API over here at Stytch, take a look! Would love to hear feedback.

catapart 3y ago
Oh, awesome! Thanks! Unfortunately, I'm not seeing much value-add over Clerk or Auth0. Looks like Stych is going to lock me in to a vendor just as much as the other two, so I'd have to compare them based on those merits alone. So far, Clerk has a more permissive free tier for B2C users. Also, it's a pretty big red flag - for me, personally - when a site promises that I can export my data, but requires me to request it via email rather than having a straightforward automated process that will provide me an export in an exact, known format. Put simply: if you haven't figured out how to automate data export (even with many complex options), then I don't have much faith in you to do other stuff with the care I would expect.
- cco 3y ago
  Appreciate the look and feedback! > Also, it's a pretty big red flag - for me, personally - when a site promises that I can export my data, but requires me to request it via email rather than having a straightforward automated process that will provide me an export in an exact, known format. Put simply: if you haven't figured out how to automate data export (even with many complex options), then I don't have much faith in you to do other stuff with the care I would expect. We let you export any and all data automatically from our API (via Search or Get Users), the only data we don't allow you to export by default is password hashes. Anything else you can pull at any time. We require a human-in-the-loop process there so we can ensure out of band that the request is valid and not coming from compromised API keys etc. I'm not sure if there are any auth services that would provide an automated way to dump password hashes, I'd be nervous if there were given the security concerns.