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Because the loan forgiveness is not contingent on voting for Biden.

hulitu 3y ago
> Because the loan forgiveness is not contingent on voting for Biden. "But just remember, it was Biden who paid your student loan".
thegrim33 3y ago
"The president hopes to begin forgiving student debt before the November election." So, two issues: 1) The door is still wide open for it to not be passed before the election, and requiring him to be re-elected for it to finish being pushed through. 2) Even if it is actually passed before the election, it's still dubious behavior when right before he needs votes, he sprays (taxpayer) money on a subset of the population that he wants votes from.
- matthewdgreen 3y ago
  If you think this is bad policy, make the case and then don't vote for him. If you think it's good policy, vote for him. Politicians constantly do things that have beneficial (or detrimental) effects on different slices of the electorate.
  - ein0p 3y ago
    Politicians should not time such things so that the giveaways they propose are conditioned on their getting re-elected. If Trump promised a bunch of people $10-20k on the condition that he’s re-elected, I bet you’d not be quite so generous.
  - datavirtue 3y ago
    They literally bend and sway to the voters, it's their job.
- datavirtue 3y ago
  We are keeping track of vote buying all of a sudden? That ship sailed long ago. Our society is literally held together by food stamps (EBT). Shut off that spigot alone and you have blood in the streets and burning buildings as far as the eye can see. Shall we get into our massive white collar middle class jobs programs...namely the defense industry? There is a fuck ton of fat that could be cut there. I don't want that. Not do I want to stop welfare programs. I like civilized, peaceful society (we are on a bit of holiday with the civility I must admit).
  - ein0p 3y ago
    Defense industry will do well irrespective of which uniparty stooge occupies the Oval Office, so it doesn’t really qualify. We’re talking well over a trillion a year at this point all-in. This train ain’t stopping.
spxneo 3y ago
but a large chunk of his voter base are people with student loans that cannot/will not accept the responsibility of your own financial decisions. just like trumps voter base were business owners. neither come with contingencies or conditions but they are clearly are populist policies aimed securing their voter base.
- deleted 3y ago
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> Because the loan forgiveness is not contingent on voting for Biden. "But just remember, it was Biden who paid your student loan".

thegrim33 3y ago

"The president hopes to begin forgiving student debt before the November election." So, two issues: 1) The door is still wide open for it to not be passed before the election, and requiring him to be re-elected for it to finish being pushed through. 2) Even if it is actually passed before the election, it's still dubious behavior when right before he needs votes, he sprays (taxpayer) money on a subset of the population that he wants votes from.

matthewdgreen 3y ago
If you think this is bad policy, make the case and then don't vote for him. If you think it's good policy, vote for him. Politicians constantly do things that have beneficial (or detrimental) effects on different slices of the electorate.
- ein0p 3y ago
  Politicians should not time such things so that the giveaways they propose are conditioned on their getting re-elected. If Trump promised a bunch of people $10-20k on the condition that he’s re-elected, I bet you’d not be quite so generous.
- datavirtue 3y ago
  They literally bend and sway to the voters, it's their job.
datavirtue 3y ago
We are keeping track of vote buying all of a sudden? That ship sailed long ago. Our society is literally held together by food stamps (EBT). Shut off that spigot alone and you have blood in the streets and burning buildings as far as the eye can see. Shall we get into our massive white collar middle class jobs programs...namely the defense industry? There is a fuck ton of fat that could be cut there. I don't want that. Not do I want to stop welfare programs. I like civilized, peaceful society (we are on a bit of holiday with the civility I must admit).
- ein0p 3y ago
  Defense industry will do well irrespective of which uniparty stooge occupies the Oval Office, so it doesn’t really qualify. We’re talking well over a trillion a year at this point all-in. This train ain’t stopping.

spxneo 3y ago

but a large chunk of his voter base are people with student loans that cannot/will not accept the responsibility of your own financial decisions. just like trumps voter base were business owners. neither come with contingencies or conditions but they are clearly are populist policies aimed securing their voter base.

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