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The Home-Solar Boom Gets a 'Gut Punch'

6 points by jseliger 3y ago

jseliger 3y ago
https://archive.ph/VEctW https://archive.ph/VEctW
DamonHD 3y ago
My goodness, there's a lot of bat-sh*t-crazy wrongness in the comments, like almost all are directly and demonstrably wrong. Are they paid shills or real people actually that fact-free in other aspects of their life? But that's why I don't read comment sections in newspapers.
- prmoustache 3y ago
  >But that's why I don't read comment sections in newspapers. Haven't you just contradicted yourself?
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- dboreham 3y ago
  Possible it's AI bot output. It'd be cool if some journalists would try to track down the humans supposedly responsible for this kind of post, see if a) they exist and b) if so why they believe what they believe.
- simoncion 3y ago
  > bat-sh*t-crazy You can say "bat-shit-crazy". We're all adults here (or minors who are sufficiently emotionally mature as to be indistinguishable from the adults).
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chris222 3y ago
California has the stupidest energy policy I have ever seen. And their PUC has some of the most corrupt people on it.
- Ekaros 3y ago
  I almost want to see honest comparison between California and Germany... Is there any other horses to enter into the race?
  - fragmede 3y ago
    Florida, which has an incentive program for EVs where theres a flat rate to charge an EV at $40/month. https://www.fpl.com/electric-vehicles/evolution/home.html https://www.fpl.com/electric-vehicles/evolution/home.html
bdcravens 3y ago
I'm not sure what it's like nationwide, but here (Houston area), the sheer annoyance of door-to-door solar sales really puts a sour taste in many's mouth. I'm decidedly pro-solar, and I despise every one that knocks on my door, as they're pretty much all dishonest and deceptive.
- voisin 3y ago
  Put solar on your roof and they’ll stop knocking. That alone might be worthwhile!
  - bravetraveler 3y ago
    They'll just assume you want accessories or plan some replacement, giving in at all will never be a good idea for these types Inch, mile I've found hanging a "no soliciting" sign and answering angrily when it's ignored effective. They'll stop showing up if they remember you, otherwise they'll think there's an angle.
skybrian 3y ago
It seems like California’s low wholesale electricity prices during the day are what victory looks like for solar. Time to do something else? Battery backups in rural areas would lessen dependency on the grid. [1] I don’t know how to reconcile this with high retail electricity prices, though. [1] example: https://www.utilitydive.com/news/green-mountain-power-vermont-storage-grid-hardening/696180/ https://www.utilitydive.com/news/green-mountain-power-vermon...
rokkitmensch 3y ago
I couldn't make solar on my house pencil out unless the risk-free rate was 8%, I paid for the whole thing in cash, and electricity prices went up 5% a year. I didn't even bother modeling panel decay at that point.
- voisin 3y ago
  What were the install prices per watt in your area?

6 points by jseliger 3y ago

https://archive.ph/VEctW https://archive.ph/VEctW

My goodness, there's a lot of bat-sh*t-crazy wrongness in the comments, like almost all are directly and demonstrably wrong. Are they paid shills or real people actually that fact-free in other aspects of their life? But that's why I don't read comment sections in newspapers.

prmoustache 3y ago
>But that's why I don't read comment sections in newspapers. Haven't you just contradicted yourself?
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dboreham 3y ago
Possible it's AI bot output. It'd be cool if some journalists would try to track down the humans supposedly responsible for this kind of post, see if a) they exist and b) if so why they believe what they believe.
simoncion 3y ago
> bat-sh*t-crazy You can say "bat-shit-crazy". We're all adults here (or minors who are sufficiently emotionally mature as to be indistinguishable from the adults).

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chris222 3y ago

California has the stupidest energy policy I have ever seen. And their PUC has some of the most corrupt people on it.

Ekaros 3y ago
I almost want to see honest comparison between California and Germany... Is there any other horses to enter into the race?
- fragmede 3y ago
  Florida, which has an incentive program for EVs where theres a flat rate to charge an EV at $40/month. https://www.fpl.com/electric-vehicles/evolution/home.html https://www.fpl.com/electric-vehicles/evolution/home.html

bdcravens 3y ago

I'm not sure what it's like nationwide, but here (Houston area), the sheer annoyance of door-to-door solar sales really puts a sour taste in many's mouth. I'm decidedly pro-solar, and I despise every one that knocks on my door, as they're pretty much all dishonest and deceptive.

voisin 3y ago
Put solar on your roof and they’ll stop knocking. That alone might be worthwhile!
- bravetraveler 3y ago
  They'll just assume you want accessories or plan some replacement, giving in at all will never be a good idea for these types Inch, mile I've found hanging a "no soliciting" sign and answering angrily when it's ignored effective. They'll stop showing up if they remember you, otherwise they'll think there's an angle.

skybrian 3y ago

It seems like California’s low wholesale electricity prices during the day are what victory looks like for solar. Time to do something else? Battery backups in rural areas would lessen dependency on the grid. [1] I don’t know how to reconcile this with high retail electricity prices, though. [1] example: https://www.utilitydive.com/news/green-mountain-power-vermont-storage-grid-hardening/696180/ https://www.utilitydive.com/news/green-mountain-power-vermon...

rokkitmensch 3y ago

I couldn't make solar on my house pencil out unless the risk-free rate was 8%, I paid for the whole thing in cash, and electricity prices went up 5% a year. I didn't even bother modeling panel decay at that point.

voisin 3y ago
What were the install prices per watt in your area?