4 ms·

Good idea, I wish it to work well. Tried to translate on the official website https://private.mt/ https://private.mt/. The phrase "PRIVATE MACHINE TRANSLATION,

Good idea, I wish it to work well. Tried to translate on the official website https://private.mt/ https://private.mt/. The phrase "PRIVATE MACHINE TRANSLATION, RUNNING LOCALLY ON YOUR DEVICE" translates to Russian as "ПРАКТРОНАТРАТИВНАЯ РАННЕЕ ПЕРЕДАЖА, ПОВЕСТКИ ДЛЯ ВАШЕГО УСЕДАНИЯ", which is an uncomprehencive combination of characters (although "вашего" is a correct word). Translating to Ukrainian also produced rubbish: "ПРИВАТНА МАЧИННА ПЕРЕКЛАД, РУНУВАННЯ ЛОКАЛІЇ НА СВОЇХ ДЕВІСНИКІВ". To German it translates as "PRIVATE MACHINE ÜBERSETZUNG, RUNNING LOCALLY AUF IHREM DEVICE", comparing to Google translate "PRIVATE MASCHINENÜBERSETZUNG, LÄUFT LOKAL AUF IHREM GERÄT".

KTibow 3y ago
[flagged]
- fao_ 3y ago
  > which GPT says is correct AI really has broken people's brains, huh :/
  - Forgeties79 3y ago
    Either I’m missing a joke or you’re being very unnecessarily rude. Hoping it’s the former.
    - prmoustache 3y ago
      He is right, you don't confirm that an LLM works well by comparing it to the result of another LLM.
    - Onawa 3y ago
      He's basically trying to say don't fully put your trust in any LLM, even one of the top ones. As you can see from an adjacent comment from someone who speaks the language, it's a closer translation but still not quite right. > Seems so. I typed in a lowered version now, gives good translation "частный машинный перевод, работая локально на вашем устройстве". (The one you got is a little clumsy ~ "translation of machines")
    - Intralexical 3y ago
      If you don't know something, then just say you don't know. Deferring to an LLM just comes across as low-effort and irrelevant.
  - Intralexical 3y ago
    As with many things spread by the Internet, I think it's just lowered the bar (and the effort) for participation. But the brains are the same.
- avodonosov 3y ago
  Seems so. I typed in a lowered version now, gives good translation "частный машинный перевод, работая локально на вашем устройстве". (The one you got is a little clumsy ~ "translation of machines")
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - troupo 3y ago
    It's not a good translation. The participle is in the wrong form, the first part of the sentence does not make sense in this context and reads something like "this is the machine's private business's translation".
    - avodonosov 3y ago
      No, it does not read like that. The translation is (reletively) good.
      - troupo 3y ago
        It does read like that. While "частный" из the direct mechanical translation of "private", it does not work like that in the context.
- troupo 3y ago
  Second part of that sentence is correct. First one makes no sense in the context, and is awkwardly constructed. First part says something like "machines' private translation (as in this is the private translation business run by machines)" though there other possible interpretations
Intralexical 3y ago
It depends entirely on the specific model it's using, I guess. I believe the currently list it queries is here: https://translatelocally.com/models.json https://translatelocally.com/models.json …Oddly, I don't actually even have Russian available at all in my desktop install of this. And there is Ukrainian, but only Ukrainian-to-English, so there's also no way that it could even be using another language as a pivot as there aren't any models that output Ukrainian. I guess the website might be using old, known bad models or something? With "English-German tiny", I get "Private maschinelle Übersetzung, läuft lokal auf Ihrem Gerät", and with "English-German base", I get "Private maschinelle Übersetzung, die lokal auf Ihrem Gerät läuft", though I had to type it in lowercase. I'd trust the translation quality enough to read foreign articles in it. Not enough to translate anything meant for anyone else to read…
- specproc 3y ago
  Yeah, it'll all be about the model. I do a fair bit of machine translation and the Helinski opus models are generally good enough for groking what a text is about. Definitely better than the examples above.
roywiggins 3y ago
Well, it did say it was fast and secure, nothing about accuracy...
avodonosov 3y ago
As we clarified under the sibling comment by KTibow (why is it flagged now?), downcasing the input text results on OK translations.
User23 3y ago
> To German it translates as "PRIVATE MACHINE ÜBERSETZUNG, RUNNING LOCALLY AUF IHREM DEVICE" ATTENTION This room is fullfilled mit special electronische equippment. Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is allowed for die experts only! So all the "lefthanders" stay away and do not disturben the brainstorming von here working intelligencies. Otherwise you will be out thrown and kicked anderswhere! Also: please keep still and only watchen astaunished the blinkenlights.

KTibow 3y ago

[flagged]

fao_ 3y ago
> which GPT says is correct AI really has broken people's brains, huh :/
- Forgeties79 3y ago
  Either I’m missing a joke or you’re being very unnecessarily rude. Hoping it’s the former.
  - prmoustache 3y ago
    He is right, you don't confirm that an LLM works well by comparing it to the result of another LLM.
  - Onawa 3y ago
    He's basically trying to say don't fully put your trust in any LLM, even one of the top ones. As you can see from an adjacent comment from someone who speaks the language, it's a closer translation but still not quite right. > Seems so. I typed in a lowered version now, gives good translation "частный машинный перевод, работая локально на вашем устройстве". (The one you got is a little clumsy ~ "translation of machines")
  - Intralexical 3y ago
    If you don't know something, then just say you don't know. Deferring to an LLM just comes across as low-effort and irrelevant.
- Intralexical 3y ago
  As with many things spread by the Internet, I think it's just lowered the bar (and the effort) for participation. But the brains are the same.
avodonosov 3y ago
Seems so. I typed in a lowered version now, gives good translation "частный машинный перевод, работая локально на вашем устройстве". (The one you got is a little clumsy ~ "translation of machines")
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- troupo 3y ago
  It's not a good translation. The participle is in the wrong form, the first part of the sentence does not make sense in this context and reads something like "this is the machine's private business's translation".
  - avodonosov 3y ago
    No, it does not read like that. The translation is (reletively) good.
    - troupo 3y ago
      It does read like that. While "частный" из the direct mechanical translation of "private", it does not work like that in the context.
troupo 3y ago
Second part of that sentence is correct. First one makes no sense in the context, and is awkwardly constructed. First part says something like "machines' private translation (as in this is the private translation business run by machines)" though there other possible interpretations

Intralexical 3y ago

It depends entirely on the specific model it's using, I guess. I believe the currently list it queries is here: https://translatelocally.com/models.json https://translatelocally.com/models.json …Oddly, I don't actually even have Russian available at all in my desktop install of this. And there is Ukrainian, but only Ukrainian-to-English, so there's also no way that it could even be using another language as a pivot as there aren't any models that output Ukrainian. I guess the website might be using old, known bad models or something? With "English-German tiny", I get "Private maschinelle Übersetzung, läuft lokal auf Ihrem Gerät", and with "English-German base", I get "Private maschinelle Übersetzung, die lokal auf Ihrem Gerät läuft", though I had to type it in lowercase. I'd trust the translation quality enough to read foreign articles in it. Not enough to translate anything meant for anyone else to read…

specproc 3y ago
Yeah, it'll all be about the model. I do a fair bit of machine translation and the Helinski opus models are generally good enough for groking what a text is about. Definitely better than the examples above.

roywiggins 3y ago

Well, it did say it was fast and secure, nothing about accuracy...

avodonosov 3y ago

As we clarified under the sibling comment by KTibow (why is it flagged now?), downcasing the input text results on OK translations.

User23 3y ago

> To German it translates as "PRIVATE MACHINE ÜBERSETZUNG, RUNNING LOCALLY AUF IHREM DEVICE" ATTENTION This room is fullfilled mit special electronische equippment. Fingergrabbing and pressing the cnoeppkes from the computers is allowed for die experts only! So all the "lefthanders" stay away and do not disturben the brainstorming von here working intelligencies. Otherwise you will be out thrown and kicked anderswhere! Also: please keep still and only watchen astaunished the blinkenlights.