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Maybe I'm a dinosaur, but I wouldn't just approve an individual Copilot subscription either. The problem isn't the money, it's the copyright and whether trade s

Maybe I'm a dinosaur, but I wouldn't just approve an individual Copilot subscription either. The problem isn't the money, it's the copyright and whether trade secrets are being leaked. Those things can surely be solved, but it's far from trivial.

zarzavat 3y ago
Okay imagine you’re an employee. You are ranked against your coworkers based on individual productivity, either explicitly or implicitly. You can choose to either spend $10/month to get a big productivity multiplier, or you can play it by the book, not use it, and be the first one out the door the next time the company decides it needs to find efficiencies in a down market. What do you choose?
- cuu508 3y ago
  I would choose to play it by the book.
- al_borland 3y ago
  Buying copilot on my own, using a personal account, would have me fired for violating our data security policies. No need to wait for a layoff. I have access to it now, but it’s through the company with whatever policies they put in place through Microsoft’s enterprise offering. Now that I have it, I don’t find it that useful. It has not been the productivity multiplier I was promised. A big part of this could be down to how the plug-in is built in VS Code. The tab key hijacking made me turn off suggestions. Based on the stats, only about 20% of suggestions are accepted. That’s too low a number to take control of a key used as often as tab.
  - animuchan 3y ago
    Its usefulness really depends on what you're writing: typical Kubernetes YAML files get fantastic suggestions, while algo-heavy code not at all. Can't you rebind the tab key in the VS Code plugin to something else?
    - al_borland 3y ago
      > Can't you rebind the tab key in the VS Code plugin to something else? That was my goal. I figured tab + some modifier would be great. I spent quite a while looking for ways to do it, tried about a dozen, but it doesn’t seem like the feature exists. Eventually I had to just turn it off so I could actually get my work done.
McAtNite 3y ago
The general gist I’m getting from this comment section is a general lack of awareness over DLP and security. The thing half these comments are complaining about exist for very good reasons.
jiggawatts 3y ago
Every company I know that balked at using the "enterprise" version of either an OpenAI product or the equivalent Azure Open AI service already uses Microsoft 365, Teams, Azure DevOps, and Azure itself. "We can't just give some unknown company our data!" screeched management. "You already have."
- throwaway11460 3y ago
  Some of the data is covered by the data protection and SLA agreement the company signed. Some of it is not.

zarzavat 3y ago

Okay imagine you’re an employee. You are ranked against your coworkers based on individual productivity, either explicitly or implicitly. You can choose to either spend $10/month to get a big productivity multiplier, or you can play it by the book, not use it, and be the first one out the door the next time the company decides it needs to find efficiencies in a down market. What do you choose?

cuu508 3y ago
I would choose to play it by the book.
al_borland 3y ago
Buying copilot on my own, using a personal account, would have me fired for violating our data security policies. No need to wait for a layoff. I have access to it now, but it’s through the company with whatever policies they put in place through Microsoft’s enterprise offering. Now that I have it, I don’t find it that useful. It has not been the productivity multiplier I was promised. A big part of this could be down to how the plug-in is built in VS Code. The tab key hijacking made me turn off suggestions. Based on the stats, only about 20% of suggestions are accepted. That’s too low a number to take control of a key used as often as tab.
- animuchan 3y ago
  Its usefulness really depends on what you're writing: typical Kubernetes YAML files get fantastic suggestions, while algo-heavy code not at all. Can't you rebind the tab key in the VS Code plugin to something else?
  - al_borland 3y ago
    > Can't you rebind the tab key in the VS Code plugin to something else? That was my goal. I figured tab + some modifier would be great. I spent quite a while looking for ways to do it, tried about a dozen, but it doesn’t seem like the feature exists. Eventually I had to just turn it off so I could actually get my work done.

McAtNite 3y ago

The general gist I’m getting from this comment section is a general lack of awareness over DLP and security. The thing half these comments are complaining about exist for very good reasons.

jiggawatts 3y ago

Every company I know that balked at using the "enterprise" version of either an OpenAI product or the equivalent Azure Open AI service already uses Microsoft 365, Teams, Azure DevOps, and Azure itself. "We can't just give some unknown company our data!" screeched management. "You already have."

throwaway11460 3y ago
Some of the data is covered by the data protection and SLA agreement the company signed. Some of it is not.