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Come on, let's not go down this rabbit hole. We have real problems in this world: WW3, Climate Crisis. The West has to be comfortable trusting each other. Micr
by personomas 2y ago
Come on, let's not go down this rabbit hole. We have real problems in this world: WW3, Climate Crisis. The West has to be comfortable trusting each other.
Microsoft is by the way more trust worthy than European governments!
- wazoox 2y agoEver heard of Edward Snowden by any chance?
- personomas 2y agoYes, I don't trust the state's either. But we have to keep things in proportion. Europe can't throw its efforts and forces now at trying to become independent from the US. We first have to defeat Russia, China, etc. Become independent of them and even defeat them before we start trying to peel off dependency on the US. US is an ally, and in the near future we have to rely on them. That's it.
- LtWorf 2y agoUS isn't an ally… They do their best interest and nobody else's.
- personomas 2y agoThat's utter nonsense.
- wazoox 2y agoOn the contrary, that's cold hard truth. The US repeatedly forces foreign companies into obedience for US companies' profit. For instance, the US forced Alstom to sell its power branch to GE by actually taking hostage one of Alstom directors into high security prison. They repeatedly menaced an punished foreign companies to force them to comply to US policy. The US is a merciless imperial power.
- mordae 2y agoIt's actually spot on. We are all looking pretty nervously at the possibility of Trump's return. He'd be definitely willing to throw us under the Putin bus for a couple million USD laundered through his golf club or hotel bookings. And you wouldn't actually revolt and do anything about that. So, on a whole, not really allies. Just other people who individually may or may not be our friends.
- personomas 2y agoI don't support Trump, I don't like Trump; however, although Trump says a lot of shit, he's no where near the level of Putin or Xi in terms of what he actually does. Even under Trump, America would still definitely definitely be an ally.
- usr1106 2y agoTrump is nowhere near the level of Putin or Xi in following evil goals or keeping his office organized and loyal. But in the role of US president he would be able to do equal harm, just by acting like a 5 year old.
- personomas 2y agoThat's not true. America is still a democracy. The US as a whole is an ally to the West and Europe.
- usr1106 2y agoTrump does not understand or accept democracy. Yes, on that Jan 6th democracy won, but there is no guarantee it will end the same way next time. Roughly 50% of the voters don't seem to have a problem with abandoning democratic traditions.
- BlueTemplar 2y agoTrump has thankfully not been able to do much, however the Bush family has. They were worse than Xi or even Putin (if you take a non-European point of view). (Arguably, Trump, Xi and even Putin still have "potential" left.)
- TiredOfLife 2y agoThe russian spy, or another one?