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Jesus Christ. If _any_ of those things happen to you regularly, please do something about changing that before you kill someone.

ajross 2y ago
There are two kinds of drivers: drivers who know they're fallible, and fallible drivers who don't. Maybe you're an outlier who doesn't make these mistakes, and if so I applaud your skill. But most likely you're just like the rest of us, and have the added handicap of self-censoring your mistakes as "someone else's fault". Data filtering is a hell of a drug, as it were.
- toasterlovin 2y ago
  I’ve had ABS activate like twice in my entire life. Agree with the person you’re responding to: if ABS activates regularly when you’re driving then you may not be a safe driver.
  - cdchn 2y ago
    I think for this person FSD might actually be an improvement.
    - ajross 2y ago
      Your inappropriate mockery notwithstanding, that was exactly my point. I'm happy you agree.
      - cdchn 2y ago
        Yes, I do agree. The hope is that full-self-driving systems will help people who should really not be on the road, negligent drivers, the elderly, those with impaired capacity from drugs and alcohol, etc.
  - fragmede 2y ago
    ABS regularly engages if you drive anywhere icey. It's not a skill issue if the ground friction is basically 0.
- amenhotep 2y ago
  There's only one kind of bad driver: one who's convinced all their mistakes are normal reasonable mistakes that everyone makes occasionally.
- treflop 2y ago
  I’m someone that checks my side mirror when I make a turn just to collect data on whether my tire touches the line. So I agree with OP. If you consider mistakes like “not checking your blind spot and aborting a lane change” as a part of normal driving, I would have to say that you are not a good driver. You don’t get to a point where you become proud of your work without keeping track of your mistakes and improving on them.
  - brookst 2y ago
    Well said. I try to be 100% attentive (spoiler: am not perfect) and rather than losing interest in “boring” driving situations I play a game of trying to guess what other drivers will do, and being very conscious of whether I am right. It’s mostly a way to maintain alertness, but it’s also helped discover patterns. Like, on city streets, if someone pulls out in front of you unreasonably and makes you get on the brakes, odds are good they will are only going a short distance and will turn, likely necessitating braking. But yeah, just throwing up hands and declaring that everyone probably makes the mistake is no way to improve, at anything.
- cdchn 2y ago
  Those things you listed are not "oopsie daisy" mistakes everyone makes, those are situations that arise from negligent driving.
- danielheath 2y ago
  I'm not a _good_ driver - the rumble strip one will happen to me about once a year - but I haven't had an "ABS prevented a crash" in well over a decade.
dmd 2y ago
Agreed. I've been driving for 30 years and I have never hit a rumble strip I didn't expect to, or had ABS activate. That is not normal!

ajross 2y ago

There are two kinds of drivers: drivers who know they're fallible, and fallible drivers who don't. Maybe you're an outlier who doesn't make these mistakes, and if so I applaud your skill. But most likely you're just like the rest of us, and have the added handicap of self-censoring your mistakes as "someone else's fault". Data filtering is a hell of a drug, as it were.

toasterlovin 2y ago
I’ve had ABS activate like twice in my entire life. Agree with the person you’re responding to: if ABS activates regularly when you’re driving then you may not be a safe driver.
- cdchn 2y ago
  I think for this person FSD might actually be an improvement.
  - ajross 2y ago
    Your inappropriate mockery notwithstanding, that was exactly my point. I'm happy you agree.
    - cdchn 2y ago
      Yes, I do agree. The hope is that full-self-driving systems will help people who should really not be on the road, negligent drivers, the elderly, those with impaired capacity from drugs and alcohol, etc.
- fragmede 2y ago
  ABS regularly engages if you drive anywhere icey. It's not a skill issue if the ground friction is basically 0.
amenhotep 2y ago
There's only one kind of bad driver: one who's convinced all their mistakes are normal reasonable mistakes that everyone makes occasionally.
treflop 2y ago
I’m someone that checks my side mirror when I make a turn just to collect data on whether my tire touches the line. So I agree with OP. If you consider mistakes like “not checking your blind spot and aborting a lane change” as a part of normal driving, I would have to say that you are not a good driver. You don’t get to a point where you become proud of your work without keeping track of your mistakes and improving on them.
- brookst 2y ago
  Well said. I try to be 100% attentive (spoiler: am not perfect) and rather than losing interest in “boring” driving situations I play a game of trying to guess what other drivers will do, and being very conscious of whether I am right. It’s mostly a way to maintain alertness, but it’s also helped discover patterns. Like, on city streets, if someone pulls out in front of you unreasonably and makes you get on the brakes, odds are good they will are only going a short distance and will turn, likely necessitating braking. But yeah, just throwing up hands and declaring that everyone probably makes the mistake is no way to improve, at anything.
cdchn 2y ago
Those things you listed are not "oopsie daisy" mistakes everyone makes, those are situations that arise from negligent driving.
danielheath 2y ago
I'm not a _good_ driver - the rumble strip one will happen to me about once a year - but I haven't had an "ABS prevented a crash" in well over a decade.

dmd 2y ago

Agreed. I've been driving for 30 years and I have never hit a rumble strip I didn't expect to, or had ABS activate. That is not normal!