Yes It drives me mad that computer programmers call themselves engineers without ever getting any engineering training In many cases with no tertiary qualific

Yes It drives me mad that computer programmers call themselves engineers without ever getting any engineering training In many cases with no tertiary qualifications at all Then there are "software architects". So dishonest. No wonder our industry has such a well deserved reputation for producing very bad products Once upon a time bridge builders built bad bridges, so engineering as an actual discipline was created. We desperately need that. We need to be held to account for what we do, just like bridge builders are