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And what was that in retaliation for?

by mhb 3y ago

belter 3y ago
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- belter 3y ago
  "Iranian support for Hamas" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_support_for_Hamas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_support_for_Hamas
  - hnfong 3y ago
    Thanks for the link, I read every source cited by the wikipedia page, and so far it's been a bunch of uncorroborated claims, and in particular no official confirmation -- https://archive.is/2aWzN https://archive.is/2aWzN - > U.S. and Israeli officials said they have no firm evidence so far that Iran authorized or directly coordinated the attack that killed more than 900 Israelis and wounded thousands. https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fighters-trained-in-iran-before-oct-7-attacks-e2a8dbb9 https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fighters-trained... > U.S. officials said Iran has regularly trained militants in Iran and elsewhere, but they have no indications of a mass training right before the attack. U.S. officials and the people familiar with the intelligence said they had no information to suggest Iran conducted training specifically to prepare for the events of Oct. 7. I'm sure this reserved stance from officials might have something to do with the US not wanting to get dragged into opposition with yet another potential nuclear power, but still. (In case you're wondering, I suspect your choice of word "Orc" might have something to do with the downvote as well...)
    - belter 3y ago
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wootland 3y ago
Nothing, Israel is trying to broaden the war and drag the US and western countries further into it.
- mhb 3y ago
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  - wootland 3y ago
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      - wootland 3y ago
        It simple actually, Iran has no impact on my life where Israel has a very negative impact on my life. I barely want to remain in the tech industry because all of the VCs are pro-genocide. My tax dollars, military and political capital all go to cover Israel. I do not think Israel should have ever been created. It does not benefit me, only harms and endangers.
        mhb 3y ago
        A broader perspective might suggest that in order to continue your life without adverse impacts, it is in your interest that Iran be prevented from developing nuclear weapons. Israel is doing a lot of work on your behalf in retarding that outcome. So, even if you are not sympathetic to the plight of our ideological fellow travelers, from a purely utilitarian view, it is in your interest to support Israel.
        wootland 3y ago
        I'm far more concerned about Israel's nuclear capacity. If anything, Iran will help keep them in check if it can develop its own nuclear deterrence.
halflife 3y ago
The military commander occupied the building with his subordinates was in charge of weapons transfer from Iran to hezbollah, which has been bombing northern Israel with thousands of rockets in the past 6 months.
2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago
Decades of Iranian proxies killing Israelis?

And what was that in retaliation for?

by mhb 3y ago

And what was that in retaliation for?

belter 3y ago

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belter 3y ago
"Iranian support for Hamas" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_support_for_Hamas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_support_for_Hamas
- hnfong 3y ago
  Thanks for the link, I read every source cited by the wikipedia page, and so far it's been a bunch of uncorroborated claims, and in particular no official confirmation -- https://archive.is/2aWzN https://archive.is/2aWzN - > U.S. and Israeli officials said they have no firm evidence so far that Iran authorized or directly coordinated the attack that killed more than 900 Israelis and wounded thousands. https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fighters-trained-in-iran-before-oct-7-attacks-e2a8dbb9 https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/hamas-fighters-trained... > U.S. officials said Iran has regularly trained militants in Iran and elsewhere, but they have no indications of a mass training right before the attack. U.S. officials and the people familiar with the intelligence said they had no information to suggest Iran conducted training specifically to prepare for the events of Oct. 7. I'm sure this reserved stance from officials might have something to do with the US not wanting to get dragged into opposition with yet another potential nuclear power, but still. (In case you're wondering, I suspect your choice of word "Orc" might have something to do with the downvote as well...)
  - belter 3y ago
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wootland 3y ago

Nothing, Israel is trying to broaden the war and drag the US and western countries further into it.

mhb 3y ago
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- wootland 3y ago
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    - wootland 3y ago
      It simple actually, Iran has no impact on my life where Israel has a very negative impact on my life. I barely want to remain in the tech industry because all of the VCs are pro-genocide. My tax dollars, military and political capital all go to cover Israel. I do not think Israel should have ever been created. It does not benefit me, only harms and endangers.
      - mhb 3y ago
        A broader perspective might suggest that in order to continue your life without adverse impacts, it is in your interest that Iran be prevented from developing nuclear weapons. Israel is doing a lot of work on your behalf in retarding that outcome. So, even if you are not sympathetic to the plight of our ideological fellow travelers, from a purely utilitarian view, it is in your interest to support Israel.
        wootland 3y ago
        I'm far more concerned about Israel's nuclear capacity. If anything, Iran will help keep them in check if it can develop its own nuclear deterrence.

halflife 3y ago

The military commander occupied the building with his subordinates was in charge of weapons transfer from Iran to hezbollah, which has been bombing northern Israel with thousands of rockets in the past 6 months.

2OEH8eoCRo0 3y ago

Decades of Iranian proxies killing Israelis?