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Well, at least it’s not a pacemaker. We haven’t reached end-stage capitalism, yet.

darby_eight 3y ago
What is end-stage capitalism? Under the nomenclature of "late-stage capitalism" the next stage is revolution, not "end-state".
- ronsor 3y ago
  "End-stage" is when there is no revolution because greed has killed everyone already.
  - koollman 3y ago
    the revolution option has expired and cannot be enabled anynmore
    - hackable_sand 3y ago
      I bet they sell pitchforks wholesale.
- yawpitch 3y ago
  Revolution is what the would-be proletariat persistently, but perhaps delusionally, assumes it will win (despite the 1% being able to afford more than enough bullets)… end-stage is when the cancer has gone past the point of fighting and you just have to resolve yourself to (in this case human-societal) death. A good sign it’s too late to seize the means of production is when the workers have medical devices that require an active and paid up subscription.
  - darby_eight 3y ago
    > Revolution is what the would-be proletariat persistently, but perhaps delusionally, assumes it will win Occasionally, it does win. I think Marx tends to have a point about the inevitability of this given persistent class conflict, but this could play out over centuries rather than something we'll ever see.
WorkerBee28474 3y ago
Beyond that there's still some way to go - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time
- schiffern 3y ago
  "a society that uses time from one's lifespan as its primary currency" That's just wages with fewer steps. People trading their time for money?? What an inconceivable future society! :D I was going to suggest something closer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo!_The_Genetic_Opera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo!_The_Genetic_Opera
- kuschku 3y ago
  Isn't that just Michael Ende's Momo but with extra steps?
BurningFrog 3y ago
And we never will!
- yawpitch 3y ago
  Dunno, Elon and Bezos seem to be doing their damndest to push past the red line. A pacemaker with an LLM you can chat with would also be a good sign we’ve passed the point of no return.
Ajay-p 3y ago
In the same way there is Rule 34, I think there applies a similar rule for capitalism: At least it's not a pacemaker, yet, but I'm sure someone is working on it.

What is end-stage capitalism? Under the nomenclature of "late-stage capitalism" the next stage is revolution, not "end-state".

ronsor 3y ago
"End-stage" is when there is no revolution because greed has killed everyone already.
- koollman 3y ago
  the revolution option has expired and cannot be enabled anynmore
  - hackable_sand 3y ago
    I bet they sell pitchforks wholesale.
yawpitch 3y ago
Revolution is what the would-be proletariat persistently, but perhaps delusionally, assumes it will win (despite the 1% being able to afford more than enough bullets)… end-stage is when the cancer has gone past the point of fighting and you just have to resolve yourself to (in this case human-societal) death. A good sign it’s too late to seize the means of production is when the workers have medical devices that require an active and paid up subscription.
- darby_eight 3y ago
  > Revolution is what the would-be proletariat persistently, but perhaps delusionally, assumes it will win Occasionally, it does win. I think Marx tends to have a point about the inevitability of this given persistent class conflict, but this could play out over centuries rather than something we'll ever see.

WorkerBee28474 3y ago

Beyond that there's still some way to go - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Time

schiffern 3y ago
"a society that uses time from one's lifespan as its primary currency" That's just wages with fewer steps. People trading their time for money?? What an inconceivable future society! :D I was going to suggest something closer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo!_The_Genetic_Opera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repo!_The_Genetic_Opera
kuschku 3y ago
Isn't that just Michael Ende's Momo but with extra steps?

BurningFrog 3y ago

And we never will!

yawpitch 3y ago
Dunno, Elon and Bezos seem to be doing their damndest to push past the red line. A pacemaker with an LLM you can chat with would also be a good sign we’ve passed the point of no return.

Ajay-p 3y ago

In the same way there is Rule 34, I think there applies a similar rule for capitalism: At least it's not a pacemaker, yet, but I'm sure someone is working on it.