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Ask someone who works at Google if there was ever a time when in the company's history when a Stanford or Berkeley degree wasn't a major advantage in the hiring

by bayam 18y ago

Ask someone who works at Google if there was ever a time when in the company's history when a Stanford or Berkeley degree wasn't a major advantage in the hiring process. Even at a small startup, you're probably going to have more faith in an unknown from Stanford than an unknown from Western Kentucky U. Paul's essay is interesting, but I don't think any of recent academic / sociological studies would confirm his conclusions. In general, the best indicator of one's success is (a) your parent's income and (b) your education. Academic connections open so many more doors and opportunities, even to those who don't have the intelligence and skills to match. An idiot who graduates from an unknown college will probably go nowhere, but one from Stanford may end up as CEO. (Personally, I've seen the latter occur.)

mstoehr 18y ago
I've definitely seen evidence that the school one goes to correlates with success, but are you sure that the causality flows in the direction: academic credential --> success? It seems plausible at least that if the parent is wealthy, seeing to it that their kid is well-educated is a good way of signaling that their kid is decent material, it's a costly signal so only the wealthiest of parents will probably be able to afford it. And since the kids of wealthier parents tend to do better, the education signal, by some accident ends up being used a great deal to gauge future success. I actually think that it used to just be a straightforward signal of wealth, but these days we don't want to admit that that's the case, we instead want to justify it as producing some useful economic product.
nostrademons 18y ago
"Ask someone who works at Google if there was ever a time when in the company's history when a Stanford or Berkeley degree wasn't a major advantage in the hiring process." All my info is based on what they said (and hence somewhat unreliable), but the factors cited in my case were my startup experience, the interview feedback, and the fact that my skillset happened to fit what they're looking for at this point in time. I also have an Amherst degree, so I can't rule it out as a factor, but nobody once mentioned it. And my GPA sucked, so it certainly couldn't have been all academic.

by bayam 18y ago

mstoehr 18y ago

I've definitely seen evidence that the school one goes to correlates with success, but are you sure that the causality flows in the direction: academic credential --> success? It seems plausible at least that if the parent is wealthy, seeing to it that their kid is well-educated is a good way of signaling that their kid is decent material, it's a costly signal so only the wealthiest of parents will probably be able to afford it. And since the kids of wealthier parents tend to do better, the education signal, by some accident ends up being used a great deal to gauge future success. I actually think that it used to just be a straightforward signal of wealth, but these days we don't want to admit that that's the case, we instead want to justify it as producing some useful economic product.

nostrademons 18y ago

"Ask someone who works at Google if there was ever a time when in the company's history when a Stanford or Berkeley degree wasn't a major advantage in the hiring process." All my info is based on what they said (and hence somewhat unreliable), but the factors cited in my case were my startup experience, the interview feedback, and the fact that my skillset happened to fit what they're looking for at this point in time. I also have an Amherst degree, so I can't rule it out as a factor, but nobody once mentioned it. And my GPA sucked, so it certainly couldn't have been all academic.