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Not just physical attractiveness, but skin tone matters in America where the conscious and subconscious biases are formed before children speak which are then r

by spxneo 3y ago

Not just physical attractiveness, but skin tone matters in America where the conscious and subconscious biases are formed before children speak which are then reinforced through media which decides for them what is attractive and what is not, and manifested in their reality. The target groups almost suffer trauma, passed on to their children and their children, paraded as not humans but caricatures of the dominant megalomaniac Pan-Euro-American psyche.

trimethylpurine 3y ago
Do you live in the Middle or Far East and you're comparing?
- spxneo 3y ago
  Rest of the globe just doesn't compare with the rest. In North America especially its subtle/overt hateful ignorance. In Europe its overt hateful ignorance. In Middle East its a mix bagged. The racism outside these parts is mostly based off curious ignorance, (they just havent seen foreigners for a long time due to isolating themselves). My first parent comment was to describe systematic and intentional hateful ignorance of the West and below I lay out the religious origins of this: Western perception is especially vulnerable through image/narrative manipulations with gaslighting, labeling and ignorance being its main tool of oppression especially when told through manufactured stories from a religious authority traditionally apt at targeting groups that rejects its main state religion (ex. Jews persecuted in Catholic Europe) which uses fear and idolation to further cement others as undesirables/dangerous/lesser. The rest of the world see the cumulation of such lazy thinking in Western political spectrums, both believing they are better than the rest of the world, supported by populist foreign & domestic policies through slogans and manufactured merit warps its subjects that simply cannot see past the illusion. Societies gets complex before entering decline and we are finally seeing this play out even in institutions that we all agreed would be free from these biases for a fair trial. Western exceptionalism is crumbling.
  - Wytwwww 3y ago
    I find it hard to believe that racism in Europe and NA is particularly more rampant than in the rest of the world. Probably the complete opposite these days.
  - deleted 3y ago
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  - trimethylpurine 3y ago
    So, no?
the_af 3y ago
What's interesting is that the article claims the findings are that physical attractiveness has a greater effect (in gaining the judge's favor) than skin tone or "race". It also claims that while attractive women have a slightly higher success with male judges, even so gender is not that important for the effect to take place.
- spxneo 3y ago
  the argument that attractive caucaisan women and men vs attractive african american women and men are treated equally at American court, is undeniably wrong. Backed up by real world numbers.
  - the_af 3y ago
    The article doesn't claim they are treated equally, just that the effect of being physically attractive is more important than the rest of the factors. From the article: > "Attorneys who are considered more physically attractive are more likely to win their cases and receive favorable votes from judges, according to new research published in the Journal of Law and Courts. This advantage holds even when taking into account other important factors like race or the attorney’s experience." > "This “treatment” variable (attractiveness) allowed for the isolation of its effect from other confounding variables such as attorney experience, ideological alignment, and financial resources." > "These findings were robust, holding true across various measures of attractiveness and even when accounting for traditional factors known to influence courtroom success, such as experience, ideology, and financial resources." > "Female attorneys with higher attractiveness scores appeared to receive a greater advantage, especially when arguing before male judges. But otherwise, there was little evidence that race or gender significantly influenced the attractiveness advantage." > “To some extent I was surprised that the results were consistent regardless of the race and gender of the judges, attorneys, and survey respondents involved in my study,” Waterbury said. “There was some suggestion in my review of previous research that race and gender effects would impact attractiveness ratings and thus impact the relationship between attractiveness and success in court. I did not find strong evidence to support that expectation in my analysis." Note that none of this says that race and gender don't matter, just that they don't seem to hugely impact the attractiveness factor.

by spxneo 3y ago

trimethylpurine 3y ago

Do you live in the Middle or Far East and you're comparing?

spxneo 3y ago
Rest of the globe just doesn't compare with the rest. In North America especially its subtle/overt hateful ignorance. In Europe its overt hateful ignorance. In Middle East its a mix bagged. The racism outside these parts is mostly based off curious ignorance, (they just havent seen foreigners for a long time due to isolating themselves). My first parent comment was to describe systematic and intentional hateful ignorance of the West and below I lay out the religious origins of this: Western perception is especially vulnerable through image/narrative manipulations with gaslighting, labeling and ignorance being its main tool of oppression especially when told through manufactured stories from a religious authority traditionally apt at targeting groups that rejects its main state religion (ex. Jews persecuted in Catholic Europe) which uses fear and idolation to further cement others as undesirables/dangerous/lesser. The rest of the world see the cumulation of such lazy thinking in Western political spectrums, both believing they are better than the rest of the world, supported by populist foreign & domestic policies through slogans and manufactured merit warps its subjects that simply cannot see past the illusion. Societies gets complex before entering decline and we are finally seeing this play out even in institutions that we all agreed would be free from these biases for a fair trial. Western exceptionalism is crumbling.
- Wytwwww 3y ago
  I find it hard to believe that racism in Europe and NA is particularly more rampant than in the rest of the world. Probably the complete opposite these days.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- trimethylpurine 3y ago
  So, no?

the_af 3y ago

What's interesting is that the article claims the findings are that physical attractiveness has a greater effect (in gaining the judge's favor) than skin tone or "race". It also claims that while attractive women have a slightly higher success with male judges, even so gender is not that important for the effect to take place.

spxneo 3y ago
the argument that attractive caucaisan women and men vs attractive african american women and men are treated equally at American court, is undeniably wrong. Backed up by real world numbers.
- the_af 3y ago
  The article doesn't claim they are treated equally, just that the effect of being physically attractive is more important than the rest of the factors. From the article: > "Attorneys who are considered more physically attractive are more likely to win their cases and receive favorable votes from judges, according to new research published in the Journal of Law and Courts. This advantage holds even when taking into account other important factors like race or the attorney’s experience." > "This “treatment” variable (attractiveness) allowed for the isolation of its effect from other confounding variables such as attorney experience, ideological alignment, and financial resources." > "These findings were robust, holding true across various measures of attractiveness and even when accounting for traditional factors known to influence courtroom success, such as experience, ideology, and financial resources." > "Female attorneys with higher attractiveness scores appeared to receive a greater advantage, especially when arguing before male judges. But otherwise, there was little evidence that race or gender significantly influenced the attractiveness advantage." > “To some extent I was surprised that the results were consistent regardless of the race and gender of the judges, attorneys, and survey respondents involved in my study,” Waterbury said. “There was some suggestion in my review of previous research that race and gender effects would impact attractiveness ratings and thus impact the relationship between attractiveness and success in court. I did not find strong evidence to support that expectation in my analysis." Note that none of this says that race and gender don't matter, just that they don't seem to hugely impact the attractiveness factor.