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Italy seems to be right there too. Just saw they deemed a car model name illegal because it sounds Italian but isn’t made in Italy: https://www.thedrive.com/new

Italy seems to be right there too. Just saw they deemed a car model name illegal because it sounds Italian but isn’t made in Italy: https://www.thedrive.com/news/italy-tells-alfa-romeo-its-illegal-to-build-the-milano-in-poland https://www.thedrive.com/news/italy-tells-alfa-romeo-its-ill...

Perepiska 3y ago
Also Italien: make liquorice candies named "Fjord" [1] :) [1] https://www.liking.it/en/products/candies/hard/balsamic-fjord/ https://www.liking.it/en/products/candies/hard/balsamic-fjor...
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mauvehaus 3y ago
Wait 'til they hear about the Pepperidge Farm cookies.
- afiori 3y ago
  None of those words sounds even vaguely italian
  - Brian_K_White 3y ago
    The single most famous one is Milano, and there is also Verona.
    - afiori 3y ago
      So Milano and Verona are products in the Pepperidge Farm brand? I was not familiar with the brand or their product naming
playingalong 3y ago
It'd be legal to produce it in Italy outside of the city of Milan. But it's illegal to produce it abroad. I don't think they even pretend it's not protectionism.
Affric 3y ago
Yeah… the Italian badge has to produce the Milano in Italy… absolutely crazy. Marketing guys who want to sell a Polish car should not be able to use the cultural cache built by Italy to do it.
- pyottdes 3y ago
  What are your feelings about the Ferrari California?
  - Affric 3y ago
    Great car. Similar feelings.
- evantbyrne 3y ago
  It's going to take a bit more persuasion to get auto manufacturers to move to an entirely different state than silly rules around names. And while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture, which is to the benefit of Americans.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture Much of modern Italian culture has direct roots in its post-War boom, with substantial portions having been grafted from Americana, e.g. pannetone, parmesan, tiramisu and quite a few "classic" pasta dishes like carbonara [1]. [1] https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b64c https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b...
    - Affric 3y ago
      That is a great article on the invention of tradition in Italian cuisine, rightwing politics, the fallibility of popular memory, and the realities of prewar life in Europe. It does not state that pannetone, parmesan, tiramasu, or 'quite a few "classic" dishes' are Americana. According to the article pizzerias as a phenomenon are American. The most traditional Parmesan is American. Carbonara was an American innovation or at least arose due to American ingredients.

Perepiska 3y ago

Also Italien: make liquorice candies named "Fjord" [1] :) [1] https://www.liking.it/en/products/candies/hard/balsamic-fjord/ https://www.liking.it/en/products/candies/hard/balsamic-fjor...

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mauvehaus 3y ago

Wait 'til they hear about the Pepperidge Farm cookies.

afiori 3y ago
None of those words sounds even vaguely italian
- Brian_K_White 3y ago
  The single most famous one is Milano, and there is also Verona.
  - afiori 3y ago
    So Milano and Verona are products in the Pepperidge Farm brand? I was not familiar with the brand or their product naming

playingalong 3y ago

It'd be legal to produce it in Italy outside of the city of Milan. But it's illegal to produce it abroad. I don't think they even pretend it's not protectionism.

Affric 3y ago

Yeah… the Italian badge has to produce the Milano in Italy… absolutely crazy. Marketing guys who want to sell a Polish car should not be able to use the cultural cache built by Italy to do it.

pyottdes 3y ago
What are your feelings about the Ferrari California?
- Affric 3y ago
  Great car. Similar feelings.
evantbyrne 3y ago
It's going to take a bit more persuasion to get auto manufacturers to move to an entirely different state than silly rules around names. And while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture, which is to the benefit of Americans.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > while the Italian government fixates on the past, the rest of the world is hooked straight up to the fire hose of American culture Much of modern Italian culture has direct roots in its post-War boom, with substantial portions having been grafted from Americana, e.g. pannetone, parmesan, tiramisu and quite a few "classic" pasta dishes like carbonara [1]. [1] https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b64c https://www.ft.com/content/6ac009d5-dbfd-4a86-839e-28bb44b2b...
  - Affric 3y ago
    That is a great article on the invention of tradition in Italian cuisine, rightwing politics, the fallibility of popular memory, and the realities of prewar life in Europe. It does not state that pannetone, parmesan, tiramasu, or 'quite a few "classic" dishes' are Americana. According to the article pizzerias as a phenomenon are American. The most traditional Parmesan is American. Carbonara was an American innovation or at least arose due to American ingredients.