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I'm waiting for the day that a company decides that prolonging the usability of an old game on physical media is robbing them of income they would make if you b

by WWLink 2y ago

I'm waiting for the day that a company decides that prolonging the usability of an old game on physical media is robbing them of income they would make if you bought the new version. Eg, a game developer suing people who make patches or utilities to run old games on new hardware - or even to provide say, multiplayer support, for old hardware. Or whatever. Like, Nintendo would love to sell you the same game over and over again every 5 years. Could they consider it "theft" if I decided I wanted to keep playing my NES copy of Mario instead of buying a Nintendo Switch and the Switch version? XD

ffsm8 2y ago
That's unlikely to occur but you're forgetting that every platform, including Nintendo is trending towards online shops... And these can simply remove the option to download the games, making the devices effectively e-waste. So yes, they're going to make playing games on old platforms you've bought them on impossible unless they're already installed, forcing users to purchase them again. It's just a side effect of phasing out physical media that store the game in favor of digital marketplaces
A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago
Oddly, me too. I was a gamer in 90s and some of the things that seem all too commonplace now, we warned and tried to fight against. Maybe people need to be sufficiently inconvenienced to demand a modicum of change to current non-ownership.
caseyy 2y ago
That's what Take-Two does with Grand Theft Auto - here is one example: https://rockstarintel.com/take-two-strikes-again-with-another-takedown-notice-for-gta-3-vice-city-reserved-engineered-projects/ https://rockstarintel.com/take-two-strikes-again-with-anothe.... Worth noting is that playing these reverse-engineered versions of the game still required the original assets which would be obtained by buying the broken games on Steam. R* Games, which is owned by Take-Two, shortly after released the remastered "Definitive Edition" versions of the games, which today sell for $59.99, as opposed to about $2 per game before ($6 in total). So effectively that's what they've been doing, but no one in the games industry or adjacent can stand up to T2's legal bullying, which goes beyond this.
- detaro 2y ago
  Also to note that the "Definitive Edition" is noticeably worse than the originals.
KETHERCORTEX 2y ago
> Eg, a game developer suing people who make patches or utilities to run old games on new hardware - or even to provide say, multiplayer support, for old hardware. Or whatever. Fun fact: in Russia it's totally legal and there's a law that explicitly allows "adaptation" of software to run on your hardware.

by WWLink 2y ago

ffsm8 2y ago

That's unlikely to occur but you're forgetting that every platform, including Nintendo is trending towards online shops... And these can simply remove the option to download the games, making the devices effectively e-waste. So yes, they're going to make playing games on old platforms you've bought them on impossible unless they're already installed, forcing users to purchase them again. It's just a side effect of phasing out physical media that store the game in favor of digital marketplaces

A4ET8a8uTh0 2y ago

Oddly, me too. I was a gamer in 90s and some of the things that seem all too commonplace now, we warned and tried to fight against. Maybe people need to be sufficiently inconvenienced to demand a modicum of change to current non-ownership.

caseyy 2y ago

That's what Take-Two does with Grand Theft Auto - here is one example: https://rockstarintel.com/take-two-strikes-again-with-another-takedown-notice-for-gta-3-vice-city-reserved-engineered-projects/ https://rockstarintel.com/take-two-strikes-again-with-anothe.... Worth noting is that playing these reverse-engineered versions of the game still required the original assets which would be obtained by buying the broken games on Steam. R* Games, which is owned by Take-Two, shortly after released the remastered "Definitive Edition" versions of the games, which today sell for $59.99, as opposed to about $2 per game before ($6 in total). So effectively that's what they've been doing, but no one in the games industry or adjacent can stand up to T2's legal bullying, which goes beyond this.

detaro 2y ago
Also to note that the "Definitive Edition" is noticeably worse than the originals.

KETHERCORTEX 2y ago

> Eg, a game developer suing people who make patches or utilities to run old games on new hardware - or even to provide say, multiplayer support, for old hardware. Or whatever. Fun fact: in Russia it's totally legal and there's a law that explicitly allows "adaptation" of software to run on your hardware.