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> Sexism. Japanese women have to pick between their career and having a family, so they pick the former. The same is often said about western countries but by

> Sexism. Japanese women have to pick between their career and having a family, so they pick the former. The same is often said about western countries but by contrary attributed to non-sexism. Conservatives love to say women don't have children because they easily choose careers as the society is not sexist enough anymore. > There's a lot of old men running Japan that won't hire married women Wow. This breaks anothse stereotype in me. I would expect he majority of old Japanese men to be super-wise, kind and caring in a good way, also simultaneously careless in a god (zen) way so they would do what is good and give up what is not even if a tradition demands that. > Immigration is also a factor: getting permanent residency in Japan is a pain in the ass. Why wouldn't they gradually enable flow of immigration from ethnically close nations? E.g. many people from Mongolia or Yakutia (a major Asian state within Russia) would probably love to immigrate to Japan and be willing to adhere to Japanese culture.

soraminazuki 3y ago
> I would expect he majority of old Japanese men to be super-wise ... I'd argue that nationality says the least about a person. Some people are nice and some are painful to deal with. It's the same everywhere. > Why wouldn't they gradually enable flow of immigration from ethnically close nations? Conservative government and lack of competent liberal opposition.
- qwerty456127 3y ago
  > I'd argue that nationality says the least about a person. Absolutely sure. Nationality does not define the person. But the culture of the society a person gets raised in influences them a lot. Hence the stereotype there are just two major kinds of people in Japan: kawaii and zen :-))
numpad0 3y ago
> E.g. many people from Mongolia or Yakutia (a major Asian state within Russia) Wow, yeah, racism wise Japan and Mongolia are closer than Korea or China, sure, but the split had estimated to have happened at least 40k years ago, that's couple times older than the oldest known human writings. It's just DNAs and some highly academic phonological elements that these regions share.
- qwerty456127 3y ago
  We are walking a narrow path between reasonable speculation and grotesque racism now. I just sort of understand the discomfort (racist - yes, unnatural and better to pretend nonexistent - hardly) numerous Japanese may feel considering inflow of people of completely different kins (European, African, whatever). Perhaps it may feel easier to deal with people which look at least a tiny bit similar and share some common cultural elements with you historically. Sure I could say China and Korea instead but these are developed countries so there probably isn't nearly as many resourceful people interested in immigration. The Chinese and Koreans probably also feel less neutral towards Japan because of the events of relatively recent history.
  - numpad0 3y ago
    I'm sorry but none of that makes sense. The part that people assume immigrants would be immune to birth rate problem don't make sense in the first place, not to speak of your comment.
somenameforme 3y ago
Solving population collapse with immigrants doesn't really work in the way many seem to think. In this case, your examples demonstrate one of the many issues to a quite extreme degree. The entire population of Yakutia is 1 million, Mongolia's about 3 million. Since 2010 Japan has lost more than 5 million people, and their rate of decline continues to accelerate. Even putting every single Mongolian and Yakut into Japan would fail to replace what they've lost just recently, let alone create a sustainable population. Beyond this there are also many other issues. Neither of these countries speaks Japanese. And while I don't know much about Yakutia, Mongolia has an extremely high crime rate for Asia. And I think that replacing the Japanese with large number of migrants would almost certainly just destroy everything that we all want to preserve about Japan - it definitely has the most peculiar and distinct culture among developed nations. Migrants will bring their own culture, values, and ideas. That can be a good thing ('Japanese' tempura is largely a product of the Portuguese for example) , but at an excessively large scale it can also simply drown out instead of compliment the host culture.

soraminazuki 3y ago

> I would expect he majority of old Japanese men to be super-wise ... I'd argue that nationality says the least about a person. Some people are nice and some are painful to deal with. It's the same everywhere. > Why wouldn't they gradually enable flow of immigration from ethnically close nations? Conservative government and lack of competent liberal opposition.

qwerty456127 3y ago
> I'd argue that nationality says the least about a person. Absolutely sure. Nationality does not define the person. But the culture of the society a person gets raised in influences them a lot. Hence the stereotype there are just two major kinds of people in Japan: kawaii and zen :-))

numpad0 3y ago

> E.g. many people from Mongolia or Yakutia (a major Asian state within Russia) Wow, yeah, racism wise Japan and Mongolia are closer than Korea or China, sure, but the split had estimated to have happened at least 40k years ago, that's couple times older than the oldest known human writings. It's just DNAs and some highly academic phonological elements that these regions share.

qwerty456127 3y ago
We are walking a narrow path between reasonable speculation and grotesque racism now. I just sort of understand the discomfort (racist - yes, unnatural and better to pretend nonexistent - hardly) numerous Japanese may feel considering inflow of people of completely different kins (European, African, whatever). Perhaps it may feel easier to deal with people which look at least a tiny bit similar and share some common cultural elements with you historically. Sure I could say China and Korea instead but these are developed countries so there probably isn't nearly as many resourceful people interested in immigration. The Chinese and Koreans probably also feel less neutral towards Japan because of the events of relatively recent history.
- numpad0 3y ago
  I'm sorry but none of that makes sense. The part that people assume immigrants would be immune to birth rate problem don't make sense in the first place, not to speak of your comment.

somenameforme 3y ago

Solving population collapse with immigrants doesn't really work in the way many seem to think. In this case, your examples demonstrate one of the many issues to a quite extreme degree. The entire population of Yakutia is 1 million, Mongolia's about 3 million. Since 2010 Japan has lost more than 5 million people, and their rate of decline continues to accelerate. Even putting every single Mongolian and Yakut into Japan would fail to replace what they've lost just recently, let alone create a sustainable population. Beyond this there are also many other issues. Neither of these countries speaks Japanese. And while I don't know much about Yakutia, Mongolia has an extremely high crime rate for Asia. And I think that replacing the Japanese with large number of migrants would almost certainly just destroy everything that we all want to preserve about Japan - it definitely has the most peculiar and distinct culture among developed nations. Migrants will bring their own culture, values, and ideas. That can be a good thing ('Japanese' tempura is largely a product of the Portuguese for example) , but at an excessively large scale it can also simply drown out instead of compliment the host culture.