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> I also want to take this moment to clearly state that Evan Koblentz, the director of the Vintage Computer Federation for many years, who took the original don

> I also want to take this moment to clearly state that Evan Koblentz, the director of the Vintage Computer Federation for many years, who took the original donation, had absolutely no say or part in this pulping of historical magazines, having been driven out of the organization years before. Sounds like new staff came in and they decided to clean things up, but decided to keep the plastic boxes.

philpem 3y ago
If they're still useful, why throw them away?
- philpem 3y ago
  To clarify, I'm talking about the boxes. As in why throw good boxes away. Actionpackers are tough little brutes, and much sturdier than cardboard.
philpem 3y ago
I had no idea who this guy was but did a web search to fill myself in and all this turned up ... https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-December/016950.html https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-Decem... Allegedly he'd quit three times in one year: https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-December/016948.html https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-Decem... https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-December/016943.html https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-Decem... I dunno, the whole damn situation stinks, but it feels like there's a hell of a lot more going on here than just a box of magazines. I don't really have the time to look into this more, it's not my group. My involvement was to reply as (I thought) a friend to ask both sides to chill and get around a table, and the outcome of that was that Jason opted to berate and belittle me. We'd worked together in the past (long time ago) on a preservation project and over time he's burned bridges with a lot of the people who worked on that. I have no idea what's going on with Jason these days, but I hope he's okay.
- justin66 3y ago
  > the outcome of that was that Jason opted to berate and belittle me. If when communicating with him you trivialized the loss of a couple dozen large containers of historical IEEE-related documents that he saved, packed up and rented a truck to deliver as "just a box of magazines," I bet he did berate you.
  - soraminazuki 3y ago
    It might've been worse than "just a box of magazines." Here's one not so subtly comparing it to garbage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40021590 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40021590
    - philpem 3y ago
      OP was talking about the boxes, I was saying why would you throw good boxes away?

philpem 3y ago

If they're still useful, why throw them away?

philpem 3y ago
To clarify, I'm talking about the boxes. As in why throw good boxes away. Actionpackers are tough little brutes, and much sturdier than cardboard.

philpem 3y ago

I had no idea who this guy was but did a web search to fill myself in and all this turned up ... https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-December/016950.html https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-Decem... Allegedly he'd quit three times in one year: https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-December/016948.html https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-Decem... https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-December/016943.html https://lists.vcfed.org/pipermail/vcf-midatlantic/2019-Decem... I dunno, the whole damn situation stinks, but it feels like there's a hell of a lot more going on here than just a box of magazines. I don't really have the time to look into this more, it's not my group. My involvement was to reply as (I thought) a friend to ask both sides to chill and get around a table, and the outcome of that was that Jason opted to berate and belittle me. We'd worked together in the past (long time ago) on a preservation project and over time he's burned bridges with a lot of the people who worked on that. I have no idea what's going on with Jason these days, but I hope he's okay.

justin66 3y ago
> the outcome of that was that Jason opted to berate and belittle me. If when communicating with him you trivialized the loss of a couple dozen large containers of historical IEEE-related documents that he saved, packed up and rented a truck to deliver as "just a box of magazines," I bet he did berate you.
- soraminazuki 3y ago
  It might've been worse than "just a box of magazines." Here's one not so subtly comparing it to garbage. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40021590 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40021590
  - philpem 3y ago
    OP was talking about the boxes, I was saying why would you throw good boxes away?