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Why are teens getting so many cavities?

by sp332 3y ago

evanjrowley 3y ago
My teenage cavities stopped after 1) eating less sugar, and 2) switching to a non-fluoride toothpaste. Now that I'm in my 30s, I have had no cavity issues thus far, but I do have a lot of chipped teeth. I should try fluoride toothpaste again, in order to see 1) if it was the lack of sugar that reduced my cavities, and 2) potentially strengthen my teeth.
- sp332 3y ago
  Have you tried hydroxyapatite? Just curious. (The chemical name is hydroxyLapatite, but it's usually spelled without the L in toothpastes. There's a heated debate about this on the wikipedia talk page.)
  - evanjrowley 3y ago
    I can't say for sure. The first non-fluoride toothpaste, and the one I used for the longest amount of time, was Coral White brand[0]. Hydroxy(l)apatite is not listed as an ingredient, but I also found that it has been derived from coral since at least 1974[1]. Best I can do is... maybe? [0] https://coraltoothpaste.com/products/coral-white-mint-toothpaste https://coraltoothpaste.com/products/coral-white-mint-toothp... [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/247220a0 https://www.nature.com/articles/247220a0
- deleted 3y ago
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- wodenokoto 3y ago
  It was the sugar, not removing fluoride.
- mdekkers 3y ago
  Toothpaste is a fantastic and cheap abrasive that makes short work of cleaning up hard metals. I don’t want that stuff anywhere near my teeth.
  - ethanbond 3y ago
    Vibes > clinical trials
    - mdekkers 3y ago
      Clinical trials of toothpaste va other methods are welcome. Can’t find any. I do have anecdata, which is that I go to the dentist every year and no caries for the past 15 years. “Toothpaste is a strong abrasive” is fact, not vibes. https://www.batemandentistry.com/blog/posts/what-about-all-these-toothpastes https://www.batemandentistry.com/blog/posts/what-about-all-t...
sph 3y ago
Why are teens eating so much sugar?
- tacocataco 3y ago
  Why are corn subsidies so high?
Aerroon 3y ago
Some people are convinced that it's due to a lack of vitamin K2 in the western diet (not K1). I personally believe this too, at least as a contributing factor. K2 is what pulls calcium from your blood into your bones (and teeth). It's mostly found in fermented foods (natto, kefir, cheese). Your body can make your own, but it's thought that it's not be enough to stop tooth decay and osteoporosis. It's my understanding that it's only been about 15 years since we have discovered that people might not be getting enough vitamin K2, so the science might not be settled yet, but there's evidence eg this [0] recent periodontitis study found that people with periodontitis had lower serum levels of vitamin K2. Other vitamins and minerals that are often lacking that contribute are vitamins D and A, and magnesium. People often get insufficient amounts of vitamin D and magnesium in the modern day too. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10670967/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10670967/

Why are teens getting so many cavities?

by sp332 3y ago

Why are teens getting so many cavities?

My teenage cavities stopped after 1) eating less sugar, and 2) switching to a non-fluoride toothpaste. Now that I'm in my 30s, I have had no cavity issues thus far, but I do have a lot of chipped teeth. I should try fluoride toothpaste again, in order to see 1) if it was the lack of sugar that reduced my cavities, and 2) potentially strengthen my teeth.

sp332 3y ago
Have you tried hydroxyapatite? Just curious. (The chemical name is hydroxyLapatite, but it's usually spelled without the L in toothpastes. There's a heated debate about this on the wikipedia talk page.)
- evanjrowley 3y ago
  I can't say for sure. The first non-fluoride toothpaste, and the one I used for the longest amount of time, was Coral White brand[0]. Hydroxy(l)apatite is not listed as an ingredient, but I also found that it has been derived from coral since at least 1974[1]. Best I can do is... maybe? [0] https://coraltoothpaste.com/products/coral-white-mint-toothpaste https://coraltoothpaste.com/products/coral-white-mint-toothp... [1] https://www.nature.com/articles/247220a0 https://www.nature.com/articles/247220a0
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wodenokoto 3y ago
It was the sugar, not removing fluoride.
mdekkers 3y ago
Toothpaste is a fantastic and cheap abrasive that makes short work of cleaning up hard metals. I don’t want that stuff anywhere near my teeth.
- ethanbond 3y ago
  Vibes > clinical trials
  - mdekkers 3y ago
    Clinical trials of toothpaste va other methods are welcome. Can’t find any. I do have anecdata, which is that I go to the dentist every year and no caries for the past 15 years. “Toothpaste is a strong abrasive” is fact, not vibes. https://www.batemandentistry.com/blog/posts/what-about-all-these-toothpastes https://www.batemandentistry.com/blog/posts/what-about-all-t...

sph 3y ago

Why are teens eating so much sugar?

tacocataco 3y ago
Why are corn subsidies so high?

Aerroon 3y ago

Some people are convinced that it's due to a lack of vitamin K2 in the western diet (not K1). I personally believe this too, at least as a contributing factor. K2 is what pulls calcium from your blood into your bones (and teeth). It's mostly found in fermented foods (natto, kefir, cheese). Your body can make your own, but it's thought that it's not be enough to stop tooth decay and osteoporosis. It's my understanding that it's only been about 15 years since we have discovered that people might not be getting enough vitamin K2, so the science might not be settled yet, but there's evidence eg this [0] recent periodontitis study found that people with periodontitis had lower serum levels of vitamin K2. Other vitamins and minerals that are often lacking that contribute are vitamins D and A, and magnesium. People often get insufficient amounts of vitamin D and magnesium in the modern day too. [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10670967/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10670967/