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Not surprising from a country that will arrest you for other non crimes such as being in possession of lockpicks (also fun fact - their police are extremely ske

by umvi 3y ago

Not surprising from a country that will arrest you for other non crimes such as being in possession of lockpicks (also fun fact - their police are extremely skeptical that Americans watch lockpickers on YouTube as a hobby even if said lockpicks are straight from said YouTuber's company)

namlem 3y ago
I think possession of lockpicks is illegal in NYC as well. Though I doubt they're enforcing that rn
- qingcharles 3y ago
  It's enforced here in Illinois if they catch you doing something with them. They add it on as an extra charge.
  - DaSHacka 3y ago
    That's how it is in most States. You can own/carry lockpicks, and even carry them past TSA, but if you're caught somewhere you're not supposed to be, you're now hit with possession of burglary tools. This is also why urbex communities reccomend not bringing picks while exploring places, as they'll bring more trouble than its worth if you're caught.
    - MadnessASAP 3y ago
      I recall that being an extremely hard and fast rule on my brief foray into urban exploration. Never ever have anything that could be construed as a weapon or burglary tool. Even if all you did was walk through an open door it makes it far too easy to build a case for breaking and entering, instead of much milder trespassing.
      - qingcharles 3y ago
        Right. A lot of these statutes swing on "intent." And if you have something suspicious on your person it is easier to get the trier of fact to see it.
    - TheCleric 3y ago
      This applies as well to a wide variety of otherwise innocent objects. I’ve known people who’ve gotten the same for screwdrivers. Basically if you have any tool with you while doing something that the police could construe (or attempt to construe) as a burglary, then those tools are burglary tools.
spike021 3y ago
I'd be curious what someone's doing that police even have any idea they've got a lock picking set or tools on their person.
- umvi 3y ago
  In this hypothetical case, they were discovered at Haneda airport flying to another city in Japan via explorer pass
baby 3y ago
I’ll bite. This slippery slope is what led people in the US rooting for pro guns laws

by umvi 3y ago

namlem 3y ago

I think possession of lockpicks is illegal in NYC as well. Though I doubt they're enforcing that rn

qingcharles 3y ago
It's enforced here in Illinois if they catch you doing something with them. They add it on as an extra charge.
- DaSHacka 3y ago
  That's how it is in most States. You can own/carry lockpicks, and even carry them past TSA, but if you're caught somewhere you're not supposed to be, you're now hit with possession of burglary tools. This is also why urbex communities reccomend not bringing picks while exploring places, as they'll bring more trouble than its worth if you're caught.
  - MadnessASAP 3y ago
    I recall that being an extremely hard and fast rule on my brief foray into urban exploration. Never ever have anything that could be construed as a weapon or burglary tool. Even if all you did was walk through an open door it makes it far too easy to build a case for breaking and entering, instead of much milder trespassing.
    - qingcharles 3y ago
      Right. A lot of these statutes swing on "intent." And if you have something suspicious on your person it is easier to get the trier of fact to see it.
  - TheCleric 3y ago
    This applies as well to a wide variety of otherwise innocent objects. I’ve known people who’ve gotten the same for screwdrivers. Basically if you have any tool with you while doing something that the police could construe (or attempt to construe) as a burglary, then those tools are burglary tools.

spike021 3y ago

I'd be curious what someone's doing that police even have any idea they've got a lock picking set or tools on their person.

umvi 3y ago
In this hypothetical case, they were discovered at Haneda airport flying to another city in Japan via explorer pass

baby 3y ago

I’ll bite. This slippery slope is what led people in the US rooting for pro guns laws