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> I have sympathy for the journalists actually doing journalism You know that with Substack all these actual journalists are having no issue getting paid very

> I have sympathy for the journalists actually doing journalism You know that with Substack all these actual journalists are having no issue getting paid very well. I'm not sure why we'd want to expand NPR or make more NPR's. We need less of their low-quality and biased journalism IMO, not more.

drawkward 2y ago
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- wustangdan 2y ago
  A senior editor just admitted they are biased. You can try and guess my politics (you'd be wrong), but I can guess that you don't think journalists who agree with your politics can be biased. I can agree with NPR's politics and still admit they are biased, why can't you? https://www.allsides.com/news-source/npr-fact-check-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/npr-fact-check-media-bi...
  - drawkward 2y ago
    One person has made some claims.
chris_wot 2y ago
NPR is pretty high quality. You just don’t like what they publish.
- leereeves 2y ago
  I guess you missed the op-ed written by a senior NPR editor recently. He admitted that NPR suppressed stories because they might help Trump and pursued poorly sourced (and ultimately false) stories because they would hurt Trump. https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...
  - specialist 2y ago
    What more could NPR say about those slap fights (Hunter Biden, COVID-19) that wasn't already beaten to death by the credulous corporate media? Is every news outlet required to be subsumed by the right-wing noise machine's narrative? Uri turning to Bari to air his grievances is pretty much all any one needs to know about his POV.
    - leereeves 2y ago
      "But when the Mueller report found no credible evidence of collusion, NPR’s coverage was notably sparse. Russiagate quietly faded from our programming." That's no slap fight, those were serious allegations and the fact that they were false is equally important. NPR happily participated in spreading those left wing falsehoods, but was unwilling to spread the truth with equal vigor. I agree it's a shame that Uri had to turn outside NPR to discuss this. But you know as well as I do that NPR would not have published this. And while COVID-19 was certainly a controversial topic, it was no "slap fight" either. It was the most important issue in the nation for two years or more. You're dismissing important issues as "slap fights" and dismissing serious discussion because you suspect someone has a different point of view. Does that tell us all we need to know about you?
      - specialist 2y ago
        What could NPR possibly add to any of those 3 food fights? In addition to the 100s of hours and 1,000s of column inches already wasted? New evidence, witnesses, analysis, pizza toppings, anything? Nope. Was yet another rehash more important than every thing else? There are 1,000s of newsworthy topics and issues every single day. Was relitigating the precise definition of "collusion" really the most important topic? Again? Was there any risk that any one any where wouldn't have already been fully immersed in those jello wrestling matches? (Benghazi!) Are you familiar with Project Censored? Were Hunter's nude selfies and expired (?) concealed carry permit more important than any of these: https://www.projectcensored.org/top-25-censored-news-stories-of-2023/ https://www.projectcensored.org/top-25-censored-news-stories... FWIW: Every side have long claimed "the media" censors their favored tickle fights. aka "Working the refs", public relations. Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent explains how that endless meta-slapfight works. To their credit, the right-wing noise machine created their own media ecosystem. (Though it's weird they continue to say they're being ignored, when conservatives dominate every medium.) The left, greens, socialists, grannies knitting for world peace, etc should all do the same. > Does that tell us all we need to know about you? Gods, I certainly hope so. Firstly, that the "news" actually be "new".
- cout 2y ago
  I'm not educated enough in journalism to distinguish high quality from low quality, but as a listener/reader, some of NPR feels like good, original journalism (my ears perk up whenever I hear Eleanor Beardsley, for example); other content feels like it is just parroting the NY Times (which itself is a weird mixture of thought-provoking articles and clickbait headlines).
- HDThoreaun 2y ago
  It used to be. Now they focus on identity politics of journalistic integrity. Only really high quality news program at this point is PBS NewsHour.

drawkward 2y ago

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wustangdan 2y ago
A senior editor just admitted they are biased. You can try and guess my politics (you'd be wrong), but I can guess that you don't think journalists who agree with your politics can be biased. I can agree with NPR's politics and still admit they are biased, why can't you? https://www.allsides.com/news-source/npr-fact-check-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/npr-fact-check-media-bi...
- drawkward 2y ago
  One person has made some claims.

chris_wot 2y ago

NPR is pretty high quality. You just don’t like what they publish.

leereeves 2y ago
I guess you missed the op-ed written by a senior NPR editor recently. He admitted that NPR suppressed stories because they might help Trump and pursued poorly sourced (and ultimately false) stories because they would hurt Trump. https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-tru...
- specialist 2y ago
  What more could NPR say about those slap fights (Hunter Biden, COVID-19) that wasn't already beaten to death by the credulous corporate media? Is every news outlet required to be subsumed by the right-wing noise machine's narrative? Uri turning to Bari to air his grievances is pretty much all any one needs to know about his POV.
  - leereeves 2y ago
    "But when the Mueller report found no credible evidence of collusion, NPR’s coverage was notably sparse. Russiagate quietly faded from our programming." That's no slap fight, those were serious allegations and the fact that they were false is equally important. NPR happily participated in spreading those left wing falsehoods, but was unwilling to spread the truth with equal vigor. I agree it's a shame that Uri had to turn outside NPR to discuss this. But you know as well as I do that NPR would not have published this. And while COVID-19 was certainly a controversial topic, it was no "slap fight" either. It was the most important issue in the nation for two years or more. You're dismissing important issues as "slap fights" and dismissing serious discussion because you suspect someone has a different point of view. Does that tell us all we need to know about you?
    - specialist 2y ago
      What could NPR possibly add to any of those 3 food fights? In addition to the 100s of hours and 1,000s of column inches already wasted? New evidence, witnesses, analysis, pizza toppings, anything? Nope. Was yet another rehash more important than every thing else? There are 1,000s of newsworthy topics and issues every single day. Was relitigating the precise definition of "collusion" really the most important topic? Again? Was there any risk that any one any where wouldn't have already been fully immersed in those jello wrestling matches? (Benghazi!) Are you familiar with Project Censored? Were Hunter's nude selfies and expired (?) concealed carry permit more important than any of these: https://www.projectcensored.org/top-25-censored-news-stories-of-2023/ https://www.projectcensored.org/top-25-censored-news-stories... FWIW: Every side have long claimed "the media" censors their favored tickle fights. aka "Working the refs", public relations. Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent explains how that endless meta-slapfight works. To their credit, the right-wing noise machine created their own media ecosystem. (Though it's weird they continue to say they're being ignored, when conservatives dominate every medium.) The left, greens, socialists, grannies knitting for world peace, etc should all do the same. > Does that tell us all we need to know about you? Gods, I certainly hope so. Firstly, that the "news" actually be "new".
cout 2y ago
I'm not educated enough in journalism to distinguish high quality from low quality, but as a listener/reader, some of NPR feels like good, original journalism (my ears perk up whenever I hear Eleanor Beardsley, for example); other content feels like it is just parroting the NY Times (which itself is a weird mixture of thought-provoking articles and clickbait headlines).
HDThoreaun 2y ago
It used to be. Now they focus on identity politics of journalistic integrity. Only really high quality news program at this point is PBS NewsHour.