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I've been trying to get a copy of panos for fuzzing/research myself but unless I set up a reputable llc that seems impossible. They've ignored every request for

by _8j50 2y ago

I've been trying to get a copy of panos for fuzzing/research myself but unless I set up a reputable llc that seems impossible. They've ignored every request for purchase I've made. If anyone has tips on how to get started with this do let me know. It seems not allowing researchers even black-box access is their strategy to secure the platform.

FreakLegion 2y ago
If you're trying to buy from them directly you aren't going to get anywhere. Palo Alto is a channel company; you need to find a channel partner that considers a one-off sale worth their time. Palo Alto does do direct deals, but not small ones. There's an easier way to get a firewall spun up, though. https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-nkug66dl4df4i https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-nkug66dl4df4i looks like the current version. I'm still running https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-3xtziatyes54i https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-3xtziatyes54i and can't speak to the newer option directly, but there should be something suitable on all of the big cloud providers.
- _8j50 2y ago
  Thanks, I think the cloud approach is the only way, I wanted to do it locally. For personal use, cloud providers are very hostile, especially if your use case is to do things that aren't normally done.
neilv 2y ago
I've bought a Palo Alto Networks big blue box on eBay in the past. If you're only using it for legitimate research, the licensing subtleties seem different than if you were using it for the benefit of its product features. For people working in enterprise IT, word was (a least a few years ago) your salesperson could hook you up to purchase one their small boxes with a license, for home use. It's in their interest to have IT people familiar with their products. But (unlike whatever you bought on eBay) I don't know whether that license would have you agreeing to restrictions on research investigation, or to restrictions on talking about the product.
jdsully 2y ago
Just buy a lab unit from CDW. The American website annoyingly has a "call us" for pricing but a PA-440 is $979 CAD for comparison. https://www.cdw.ca/product/palo-pa-440-security-appliance-lab-unit/6724250?pfm=srh https://www.cdw.ca/product/palo-pa-440-security-appliance-la...

by _8j50 2y ago

FreakLegion 2y ago

If you're trying to buy from them directly you aren't going to get anywhere. Palo Alto is a channel company; you need to find a channel partner that considers a one-off sale worth their time. Palo Alto does do direct deals, but not small ones. There's an easier way to get a firewall spun up, though. https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-nkug66dl4df4i https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-nkug66dl4df4i looks like the current version. I'm still running https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-3xtziatyes54i https://aws.amazon.com/marketplace/pp/prodview-3xtziatyes54i and can't speak to the newer option directly, but there should be something suitable on all of the big cloud providers.

_8j50 2y ago
Thanks, I think the cloud approach is the only way, I wanted to do it locally. For personal use, cloud providers are very hostile, especially if your use case is to do things that aren't normally done.

neilv 2y ago

I've bought a Palo Alto Networks big blue box on eBay in the past. If you're only using it for legitimate research, the licensing subtleties seem different than if you were using it for the benefit of its product features. For people working in enterprise IT, word was (a least a few years ago) your salesperson could hook you up to purchase one their small boxes with a license, for home use. It's in their interest to have IT people familiar with their products. But (unlike whatever you bought on eBay) I don't know whether that license would have you agreeing to restrictions on research investigation, or to restrictions on talking about the product.

jdsully 2y ago

Just buy a lab unit from CDW. The American website annoyingly has a "call us" for pricing but a PA-440 is $979 CAD for comparison. https://www.cdw.ca/product/palo-pa-440-security-appliance-lab-unit/6724250?pfm=srh https://www.cdw.ca/product/palo-pa-440-security-appliance-la...