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“The United States is at its greatest risk of terrorism in more than a decade following the horrific October 7th attack on Israel, and the [intelligence communi

“The United States is at its greatest risk of terrorism in more than a decade following the horrific October 7th attack on Israel, and the [intelligence community] must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of China,” Wouldn't the point of an "intelligence" service be to _prevent_ terrorist attacks? Then again, that would apparently frustrate their efforts at increasing their budget and access to American's data without a warrant. Well, as long as we're keeping pace with China, I guess. What an absurdly ridiculous bullying narrative.

dgfitz 3y ago
> Wouldn't the point of an "intelligence" service be to _prevent_ terrorist attacks? Your frustration is clouding your judgment. The purpose of an intelligence service is to gather intelligence. Preventing acts of terrorism would be the mission of the Bureau of Counterterrorism, among others. People bitch here on a constant basis about US 3-letter agencies. Which is fine I suppose, but the amount of bullshit FUD surrounding the bitching is almost embarrassing.
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- Lochleg 3y ago
  The tragedy of 9/11 was cited as a failure of the intelligence community as a whole, primary the TLAs, to work together. They know they are responsible, and they know they have to justify their budget in those same terms. The CIA, for one, also meddles in foreign affairs heavily. Presumably, they use active measures to dismantle terror networks. Also, it's not appropriate to view 11/7 as an attack that was hard to predict. At least, the border incursion was an eventuality that they should have been able to repel.
  - dgfitz 3y ago
    > Presumably, they use active measures to dismantle terror networks. If you think this is a thing that happens, I’m apparently too stupid to understand what the issue is here?
a_wild_dandan 3y ago
Isn’t that what the quote means? Focus resources/attention/spying/whatever on preventing (cyber)attacks? That’s how I read it, anyway.
jimbob45 3y ago
Word on the street is that either Israel or the US is going to get hit by Iran within two weeks. I'm pleased that they pushed this through honestly instead of waiting for said attack to take advantage of the inevitably hysteria.
- asynchronous 3y ago
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spxneo 3y ago
"The Soviet Union is at its greatest risk of invasion in more than half a century following the dramatic June 22nd attack by Germany, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of the United States." "Britain is at its greatest risk of naval attack in more than a century following the devastating December 7th attack by Germany, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of Japan." "France is at its greatest risk of revolution in more than a century following the tumultuous July 14th attack by the people, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of Britain." "Russia is at its greatest risk of internal upheaval in more than a century following the dramatic October 25th attack by the Bolsheviks, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of Germany."
- Cyph0n 3y ago
  Actually, the argument is even dumber, because they’re referring to an attack on an entirely different country.

dgfitz 3y ago

> Wouldn't the point of an "intelligence" service be to _prevent_ terrorist attacks? Your frustration is clouding your judgment. The purpose of an intelligence service is to gather intelligence. Preventing acts of terrorism would be the mission of the Bureau of Counterterrorism, among others. People bitch here on a constant basis about US 3-letter agencies. Which is fine I suppose, but the amount of bullshit FUD surrounding the bitching is almost embarrassing.

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Lochleg 3y ago
The tragedy of 9/11 was cited as a failure of the intelligence community as a whole, primary the TLAs, to work together. They know they are responsible, and they know they have to justify their budget in those same terms. The CIA, for one, also meddles in foreign affairs heavily. Presumably, they use active measures to dismantle terror networks. Also, it's not appropriate to view 11/7 as an attack that was hard to predict. At least, the border incursion was an eventuality that they should have been able to repel.
- dgfitz 3y ago
  > Presumably, they use active measures to dismantle terror networks. If you think this is a thing that happens, I’m apparently too stupid to understand what the issue is here?

a_wild_dandan 3y ago

Isn’t that what the quote means? Focus resources/attention/spying/whatever on preventing (cyber)attacks? That’s how I read it, anyway.

jimbob45 3y ago

Word on the street is that either Israel or the US is going to get hit by Iran within two weeks. I'm pleased that they pushed this through honestly instead of waiting for said attack to take advantage of the inevitably hysteria.

asynchronous 3y ago
!RemindMe in two weeks

spxneo 3y ago

"The Soviet Union is at its greatest risk of invasion in more than half a century following the dramatic June 22nd attack by Germany, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of the United States." "Britain is at its greatest risk of naval attack in more than a century following the devastating December 7th attack by Germany, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of Japan." "France is at its greatest risk of revolution in more than a century following the tumultuous July 14th attack by the people, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of Britain." "Russia is at its greatest risk of internal upheaval in more than a century following the dramatic October 25th attack by the Bolsheviks, and the intelligence community must focus attention and resources on that threat while continuing to stay ahead of Germany."

Cyph0n 3y ago
Actually, the argument is even dumber, because they’re referring to an attack on an entirely different country.