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They are voting to reconsider this on Monday. Call your rep at (202) 224-3121

by Georgelemental 3y ago

derbOac 3y ago
reconsider?
- Georgelemental 3y ago
  https://x.com/chiproytx/status/1778865117142089875 https://x.com/chiproytx/status/1778865117142089875
  - karma_pharmer 3y ago
    The purpose of a Motion to Reconsider is to delay an approved motion from taking effect until the end of the following business day if an absentee can be convinced to join the quorum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconsideration_of_a_motion#Legislative_use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconsideration_of_a_motion#Le... Here is the roll call on the 212-212 tie vote on the Biggs Amendment which would require a warrant: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024114 https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024114 Thirteen members did not vote on that roll call. Any one of them could tip the balance: Babin Republican Texas Not Voting Gallego Democratic Arizona Not Voting González-Colón Republican Puerto Rico Not Voting Grijalva Democratic Arizona Not Voting Lesko Republican Arizona Not Voting Luetkemeyer Republican Missouri Not Voting Mooney Republican West Virginia Not Voting Payne Democratic New Jersey Not Voting Perez Democratic Washington Not Voting Plaskett Democratic Virgin Islands Not Voting Radewagen Republican American Samoa Not Voting Strickland Democratic Washington Not Voting Wittman Republican Virginia Not Voting All but one of these representatives did not vote at all today, which means they are likely not in Washington. Hopefully one or more can be convinced to fly there in the next 48 hours. The exception is Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, who was on the floor today and voted on every measure except the Biggs Amendment. This means she effectively voted against it. Her district covers the southwestern part of Washington State (Pacific, Chehailis, Lewis, Clark, Skamania, Wahkiakum, and Cowlitz Counties). If you live there, give her a call at (202) 225-3536 (from here: https://clerk.house.gov/Members/G000600 https://clerk.house.gov/Members/G000600 )
oceanplexian 3y ago
Not only are they voting on it but there is bipartisan support for the Biggs Amendment, which tied at 212 votes. This is one of those issues that is so close that calling your rep would actually make a legitimate difference.
- sneak 3y ago
  Do you really think that the multitrillion dollar industry that thrives on surveilling the public would allow their private takeover of the US government to be thwarted by a few phone calls by civilians? This sort of surveillance power (the ability to peer into Microsoft, Google, Apple, Yahoo, AWS, Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T in realtime without a warrant) is the sort of thing that allows them to blackmail or extort every member of congress, every member of law enforcement, prosecutor, judge, or general in the country. There is no amount of political organizing that can usefully be brought to bear against the most powerful organization in the country (the CIA/IC) once they have obtained this capability (and they have, for years now).
  - squigz 3y ago
    Then what do you recommend, if anything?
  - Workaccount2 3y ago
    Yes, I do, and people should call. It's dumb defeatist attitude that causes nothing to be done.
  - yazzku 3y ago
    Ok, let's just give up, then?
  - wumeow 3y ago
    lol it was 212 to 212, that’s exactly what almost happened! And the only reason this passed today is that Republicans think they can kill it in 2 years.
    - webspinner 3y ago
webspinner 3y ago
I happen to live in the home state of Senator Wyden. I'm pretty sure that all my reps are against all the surveillance anyway, but don't worry I'll make the call.

They are voting to reconsider this on Monday. Call your rep at (202) 224-3121

derbOac 3y ago

reconsider?

Georgelemental 3y ago
https://x.com/chiproytx/status/1778865117142089875 https://x.com/chiproytx/status/1778865117142089875
- karma_pharmer 3y ago
  The purpose of a Motion to Reconsider is to delay an approved motion from taking effect until the end of the following business day if an absentee can be convinced to join the quorum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconsideration_of_a_motion#Legislative_use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconsideration_of_a_motion#Le... Here is the roll call on the 212-212 tie vote on the Biggs Amendment which would require a warrant: https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024114 https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024114 Thirteen members did not vote on that roll call. Any one of them could tip the balance: Babin Republican Texas Not Voting Gallego Democratic Arizona Not Voting González-Colón Republican Puerto Rico Not Voting Grijalva Democratic Arizona Not Voting Lesko Republican Arizona Not Voting Luetkemeyer Republican Missouri Not Voting Mooney Republican West Virginia Not Voting Payne Democratic New Jersey Not Voting Perez Democratic Washington Not Voting Plaskett Democratic Virgin Islands Not Voting Radewagen Republican American Samoa Not Voting Strickland Democratic Washington Not Voting Wittman Republican Virginia Not Voting All but one of these representatives did not vote at all today, which means they are likely not in Washington. Hopefully one or more can be convinced to fly there in the next 48 hours. The exception is Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, who was on the floor today and voted on every measure except the Biggs Amendment. This means she effectively voted against it. Her district covers the southwestern part of Washington State (Pacific, Chehailis, Lewis, Clark, Skamania, Wahkiakum, and Cowlitz Counties). If you live there, give her a call at (202) 225-3536 (from here: https://clerk.house.gov/Members/G000600 https://clerk.house.gov/Members/G000600 )

oceanplexian 3y ago

Not only are they voting on it but there is bipartisan support for the Biggs Amendment, which tied at 212 votes. This is one of those issues that is so close that calling your rep would actually make a legitimate difference.

sneak 3y ago
Do you really think that the multitrillion dollar industry that thrives on surveilling the public would allow their private takeover of the US government to be thwarted by a few phone calls by civilians? This sort of surveillance power (the ability to peer into Microsoft, Google, Apple, Yahoo, AWS, Verizon, T-Mobile, and AT&T in realtime without a warrant) is the sort of thing that allows them to blackmail or extort every member of congress, every member of law enforcement, prosecutor, judge, or general in the country. There is no amount of political organizing that can usefully be brought to bear against the most powerful organization in the country (the CIA/IC) once they have obtained this capability (and they have, for years now).
- squigz 3y ago
  Then what do you recommend, if anything?
- Workaccount2 3y ago
  Yes, I do, and people should call. It's dumb defeatist attitude that causes nothing to be done.
- yazzku 3y ago
  Ok, let's just give up, then?
- wumeow 3y ago
  lol it was 212 to 212, that’s exactly what almost happened! And the only reason this passed today is that Republicans think they can kill it in 2 years.
  - webspinner 3y ago

webspinner 3y ago

I happen to live in the home state of Senator Wyden. I'm pretty sure that all my reps are against all the surveillance anyway, but don't worry I'll make the call.