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> but it’s also expensive and usually requires windows Can you please clarify what exactly is expensive and requires windows as far as .net is concerned? Comp

> but it’s also expensive and usually requires windows Can you please clarify what exactly is expensive and requires windows as far as .net is concerned? Compared to 2016 the development and hosting experience for at least Linux (can't speak to Macs) has gone forward by a country mile. You can develop practically for free (no need to visual studio license since vs code exists) and target Linux environments during build so no need for windows server either.

Atotalnoob 2y ago
Yes, you can use vscode and rider. Rider isn’t free for companies and vscode has some free stuff, but Microsoft came out with a new extension for c# that requires a visual studio subscription. To me, this signals they will be directing the majority of their investment into this, rather than a free extension. The experience isn’t as good in vscode (I haven’t used rider, but it costs money anyway, so still expensive) as it is in full fat visual studio. At work, I use windows and full visual studio. At home, I use Linux and vscode.
- neonsunset 2y ago
  You do not need "C# Dev Kit", it's nigh useless if you already used plain C# extension, which has the actual good bits you need. Also, Rider is free if you apply for an OSS license (if you use it for FOSS), or have your company pay for it if you use it professionally.
  - pier25 2y ago
    What's the difference between the C# Dev Kit and the C# extension?
    - neonsunset 2y ago
      The description is somewhat misleading but it comes down to 1. Visual Studio style solution explorer and 2. Visual Studio style tests explorer [0] While the former may be missed by some, I long ago adapted and prefer to normal folder and file navigation, and for the latter there are other extensions to browser the tests. The ability to run/debug specific tests is already included in the base C# extension, while project management is actually easier via CLI the same way you do it with Rust's cargo (dotnet new {templateName}, dotnet new sln, dotnet sln add/remove, etc.). [0] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-dotnettools.csdevkit https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-dotne...
- munbun 2y ago
  MS is sunsetting Visual Studio for Apple users in August and encouraging users to move over to VS Code.

Atotalnoob 2y ago

Yes, you can use vscode and rider. Rider isn’t free for companies and vscode has some free stuff, but Microsoft came out with a new extension for c# that requires a visual studio subscription. To me, this signals they will be directing the majority of their investment into this, rather than a free extension. The experience isn’t as good in vscode (I haven’t used rider, but it costs money anyway, so still expensive) as it is in full fat visual studio. At work, I use windows and full visual studio. At home, I use Linux and vscode.

neonsunset 2y ago
You do not need "C# Dev Kit", it's nigh useless if you already used plain C# extension, which has the actual good bits you need. Also, Rider is free if you apply for an OSS license (if you use it for FOSS), or have your company pay for it if you use it professionally.
- pier25 2y ago
  What's the difference between the C# Dev Kit and the C# extension?
  - neonsunset 2y ago
    The description is somewhat misleading but it comes down to 1. Visual Studio style solution explorer and 2. Visual Studio style tests explorer [0] While the former may be missed by some, I long ago adapted and prefer to normal folder and file navigation, and for the latter there are other extensions to browser the tests. The ability to run/debug specific tests is already included in the base C# extension, while project management is actually easier via CLI the same way you do it with Rust's cargo (dotnet new {templateName}, dotnet new sln, dotnet sln add/remove, etc.). [0] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-dotnettools.csdevkit https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=ms-dotne...
munbun 2y ago
MS is sunsetting Visual Studio for Apple users in August and encouraging users to move over to VS Code.