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I don't think France is so messy. It looks like it because the French really enjoy criticizing everything.

• JPLeRouzic 3y ago
  We only had a quasi-state of insurrection for a month or two each year since 2005 and even before 2005 it was not that quiet: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89meutes_dans_les_banlieues_fran%C3%A7aises_depuis_les_ann%C3%A9es_1970 https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89meutes_dans_les_banlieue...
  • illiac786 3y ago
    That’s an exaggeration , your comment does not reflect the content of the Wikipedia article. 2018, 2019, 2022 and 2023 are listed yes, but definitely not every year since 2005. And it’s days of insurrections or manifestations/gatherings, in specific areas, not months of quasi-insurrection across all of France. That being said, the relationship of the citizens with the French police is very much catastrophic and getting worse, that I agree on. It’s heading down the same path as the US.
    • JPLeRouzic 3y ago
      The cost of 2023 insurrection was 1 G Euro just for a month, and it was across all of France. How many people in other countries have seen a car exploding near their home or a neighbor's home take fire? That happened to me in 2005 in Rennes. Weirdly my co-workers who lived just a few kilometers away in a more wealthy suburb told me that I was exaggerating. Yet the interior minister does not publish any more statistics about burned cars... In many towns, it's common for dealers to fight between them with Kalatchnikovs.