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Further, even if it were the case, it's the fault of android and Apple developers for having failed to implement a client for mobile. An issue that could and ou

by daeros 2y ago

Further, even if it were the case, it's the fault of android and Apple developers for having failed to implement a client for mobile. An issue that could and ought to be resolved.

Gigachad 2y ago
You can’t create a proper client for it because IRC does not have a standardised backlog functionality.
- daeros 2y ago
  Um if you need backlogging, as I noted, a Bouncer will provide. if they don't provide it for free hosting this on something like a digital ocean droplet can implement it, but then again, it can get expensive. https://github.com/znc/znc https://github.com/znc/znc
  - Gigachad 2y ago
    Everyone needs backlogging. If you open your phone, check a chat, but can only read messages sent at the exact moment you had the chat open, it doesn’t work. Telling everyone to rent a VPS and run a server to hack in an essential feature is insane.
    - daeros 2y ago
      I Don't. I barely use my smartphone and Heavily prefer my fully featured laptop. https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory Plus, again, IT's not necessary to rent a VPS. IrcV3 has a module for backlogging. You just have to actually plug it in and use it.
- daeros 2y ago
  https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory plus backlogging, I do appreciate that it's a module and not, you know, Standard.
  - Gigachad 2y ago
    IrcV3 is an improvement but it’s very much a too little too late situation. They should have been discussing this in 2005. Now it’s too late since the users have all left.
    - daeros 2y ago
      "The users have all left." the comment reminds me of the way people are when I talk about how badly I want Terrestrial radio to die in a fire. "People still listen to terrestrial radio?" Sadly, yes. There's a new crop pf users today. Depends on the network, depends on the server. Some of these people are like me, they felt the world was full of possibly back in 2000, they just want the feeling back. Mind you, some of us know our old uncle that says the good old days were better is full of shit, and has just you know, failed to remember the bad parts of the past. and prefers to only think about the good. But I started using myself back in like late 1999 to get mp3s before Napster was around, and I'm not like boasting about warez like I'm still 13 I'm actually just matter of fact about it these days like shrug. Like I don't really think it makes me cooler than anyone else or better or anything, I just- I'm an honest broker. I do feel an affection for things like the old humorist logs that wwent on bash and everything. the past wasn't better, different, in a lot of ways worse. but not better.

by daeros 2y ago

Further, even if it were the case, it's the fault of android and Apple developers for having failed to implement a client for mobile. An issue that could and ought to be resolved.

Gigachad 2y ago

You can’t create a proper client for it because IRC does not have a standardised backlog functionality.

daeros 2y ago
Um if you need backlogging, as I noted, a Bouncer will provide. if they don't provide it for free hosting this on something like a digital ocean droplet can implement it, but then again, it can get expensive. https://github.com/znc/znc https://github.com/znc/znc
- Gigachad 2y ago
  Everyone needs backlogging. If you open your phone, check a chat, but can only read messages sent at the exact moment you had the chat open, it doesn’t work. Telling everyone to rent a VPS and run a server to hack in an essential feature is insane.
  - daeros 2y ago
    I Don't. I barely use my smartphone and Heavily prefer my fully featured laptop. https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory Plus, again, IT's not necessary to rent a VPS. IrcV3 has a module for backlogging. You just have to actually plug it in and use it.
daeros 2y ago
https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory plus backlogging, I do appreciate that it's a module and not, you know, Standard.
- Gigachad 2y ago
  IrcV3 is an improvement but it’s very much a too little too late situation. They should have been discussing this in 2005. Now it’s too late since the users have all left.
  - daeros 2y ago
    "The users have all left." the comment reminds me of the way people are when I talk about how badly I want Terrestrial radio to die in a fire. "People still listen to terrestrial radio?" Sadly, yes. There's a new crop pf users today. Depends on the network, depends on the server. Some of these people are like me, they felt the world was full of possibly back in 2000, they just want the feeling back. Mind you, some of us know our old uncle that says the good old days were better is full of shit, and has just you know, failed to remember the bad parts of the past. and prefers to only think about the good. But I started using myself back in like late 1999 to get mp3s before Napster was around, and I'm not like boasting about warez like I'm still 13 I'm actually just matter of fact about it these days like shrug. Like I don't really think it makes me cooler than anyone else or better or anything, I just- I'm an honest broker. I do feel an affection for things like the old humorist logs that wwent on bash and everything. the past wasn't better, different, in a lot of ways worse. but not better.