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I think their main AI case will be photo and video editing or maybe some LLM bots to help your organize and search through files, but Siri feels really abandone

I think their main AI case will be photo and video editing or maybe some LLM bots to help your organize and search through files, but Siri feels really abandoned.

knodi123 3y ago
If they just gave Siri an off-the-shelf LLM with a few extra capabilities that plugged into their ecosystem, it would be amazing.
- Art9681 3y ago
  They recently published a paper where an on device model has UI awareness. https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.05719 https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.05719 Siri is about to get swole.
  - Rinzler89 3y ago
    Damn, it seems then Google is really behind here. IIRC their Pixel 8 chips are so underpowered that they can't even run Google's smallest LLM models locally on device, so despite their whole AI hype sales pitch, everything on the Pixel 8 is still run in the cloud. How is Google so slow at this? At least the likes of Intel and Microsoft have an excuse, they're old and crusty corporations that move slow.
    - r00fus 3y ago
      It's instructive to know where corporations make their money. Because that's often the only place they innovate. For Google it's web/ads. For Apple it's hardware.
sroussey 3y ago
Siri moved on device, which was a huge engineering effort. But capabilities stagnated, like because of the move on device.
alwillis 3y ago
> I think their main AI case will be photo and video editing Sure, AI features will come to all of their content creation apps at some point, most of it being processed on-device. But I suspect the most impact will be in other apps and areas of the operating systems that typically haven't gotten a lot of attention traditionally. I'd much rather have generative AI or an intelligent agent to deal with email than filling in backgrounds in images. Because the pertinent information is in my calendar, address book, etc., I should be able to say "email Tom I can't make it to the party" and that email is created for me.
lamontcg 3y ago
> Siri feels really abandoned. Apple has a fairly severe case of Apple Maps-related PTSD. They aren't likely to introduce a half-baked product in a rush to market like everyone else is doing. Apple is unlikely to release a fundamental modern-ML update to Siri without it both breaking new ground in features and being considerably more "safe" to use than other products ("safe" in the sense of keeping Apple out of the headlines).

I think their main AI case will be photo and video editing or maybe some LLM bots to help your organize and search through files, but Siri feels really abandoned.

knodi123 3y ago

If they just gave Siri an off-the-shelf LLM with a few extra capabilities that plugged into their ecosystem, it would be amazing.

Art9681 3y ago
They recently published a paper where an on device model has UI awareness. https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.05719 https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.05719 Siri is about to get swole.
- Rinzler89 3y ago
  Damn, it seems then Google is really behind here. IIRC their Pixel 8 chips are so underpowered that they can't even run Google's smallest LLM models locally on device, so despite their whole AI hype sales pitch, everything on the Pixel 8 is still run in the cloud. How is Google so slow at this? At least the likes of Intel and Microsoft have an excuse, they're old and crusty corporations that move slow.
  - r00fus 3y ago
    It's instructive to know where corporations make their money. Because that's often the only place they innovate. For Google it's web/ads. For Apple it's hardware.

sroussey 3y ago

Siri moved on device, which was a huge engineering effort. But capabilities stagnated, like because of the move on device.

alwillis 3y ago

> I think their main AI case will be photo and video editing Sure, AI features will come to all of their content creation apps at some point, most of it being processed on-device. But I suspect the most impact will be in other apps and areas of the operating systems that typically haven't gotten a lot of attention traditionally. I'd much rather have generative AI or an intelligent agent to deal with email than filling in backgrounds in images. Because the pertinent information is in my calendar, address book, etc., I should be able to say "email Tom I can't make it to the party" and that email is created for me.

lamontcg 3y ago

> Siri feels really abandoned. Apple has a fairly severe case of Apple Maps-related PTSD. They aren't likely to introduce a half-baked product in a rush to market like everyone else is doing. Apple is unlikely to release a fundamental modern-ML update to Siri without it both breaking new ground in features and being considerably more "safe" to use than other products ("safe" in the sense of keeping Apple out of the headlines).